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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    Heh. 8 months in advance of the election and already you and many others in this thread *cough* SeattleUte creekster JL mbn *cough* are pre-justifying their vote for Trump, because "Bernie is that bad" or some other such bullshit.

    Just sack up and own it. You were going to vote for Trump's re-election all along.

    Bernie/Tulsi 2020!
    My vote doesn't matter because the golden state of california. But I will not vote for Bernie. Nor will I vote for Trump. I will sit it out or go third party or write in or something.
    PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    Heh. 8 months in advance of the election and already you and many others in this thread *cough* SeattleUte creekster JL mbn *cough* are pre-justifying their vote for Trump, because "Bernie is that bad" or some other such bullshit.

    Just sack up and own it. You were going to vote for Trump's re-election all along.

    Bernie/Tulsi 2020!


    Write in Mitt!!!
    Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

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    Candidates I will never cast a vote for under any circumstances:

    Trump
    Warren
    Sanders

    Candidates I would likely vote for if they win the Dem nomination:

    Bloomberg

    Candidates I would give some consideration to voting for if they win the Dem nomination (in no particular order):

    Buttigieg
    Klobuchar
    Biden

    All other Dem candidates still in the race have zero shot of getting the nomination so it's not worth considering them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myboynoah View Post


    Write in Mitt!!!
    Ann Romney!

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    Quote Originally Posted by myboynoah View Post


    Write in Mitt!!!
    Mitt would be great and I would vote for him if he could win, but I’m voting for the democrat because they are not an asset for an adversarial government.
    Last edited by frank ryan; 02-21-2020 at 10:58 PM.

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    As if Russia "meddling" wasn't messy enough in 2016.

    Sanders told Russia is trying to help his campaign

    And what they are doing, by the way, the ugly thing that they are doing, and I've seen some of their tweets and stuff, is they try to divide us up. That's what they did in 2016 and that is the ugliest thing they are doing -- is they are trying to cause chaos, they are trying to cause hatred in America. It's an ugly business and all of us have got to say, sorry, you're not going to do this in this election and again, as President of the United States, Mr. Putin, you will not interfere in our elections.
    What exactly is being proposed here? You've seen the tweets and "stuff", are you going to stop them from tweeting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Haha. I promise you that will never happen. I will either vote D or throw away my vote on some 3rd party candidate.
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    Is it correlation or causation that as Sanders is surging toward the nomination, Trump is surging too? Trump's numbers are better than ever, literally days after being acquitted in the impeachment trial. Biggest news is that the Quinnipiac poll out just yesterday has Trump 7-11 points ahead of all democrats in Wisconsin. If Sanders is nominated, Democrats will be conceding Florida. Floridians of Cuban ancestry almost to a person won't vote for lifelong Communist and admirer of Castro. Retireds who lived through the Cold War, about the same, especially those who are pro-Israel. Conceding Florida is like cutting your hand off before a fight. If Trump has Wisconsin and Florida secured, that's ballgame, to say nothing about what that portends about the other swing states and states newly in play. For a preview of what appears to be happening, see Johnson vs. Corbyn.

    The woke and socialists should be careful what they wish for. If Trump wins a landslide popular vote and 39-44 states vs. Sanders, that's the end of woke and socialist movements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    Is it correlation or causation that as Sanders is surging toward the nomination, Trump is surging too? Trump's numbers are better than ever, literally days after being acquitted in the impeachment trial. Biggest news is that the Quinnipiac poll out just yesterday has Trump 7-11 points ahead of all democrats in Wisconsin. If Sanders is nominated, Democrats will be conceding Florida. Floridians of Cuban ancestry almost to a person won't vote for lifelong Communist and admirer of Castro. Retireds who lived through the Cold War, about the same, especially those who are pro-Israel. Conceding Florida is like cutting your hand off before a fight. If Trump has Wisconsin and Florida secured, that's ballgame, to say nothing about what that portends about the other swing states and states newly in play. For a preview of what appears to be happening, see Johnson vs. Corbyn.

    The woke and socialists should be careful what they wish for. If Trump wins a landslide popular vote and 39-44 states vs. Sanders, that's the end of woke and socialist movements.
    I've always thought it would be near impossible for Trump to win the popular vote with the margins he's likely to lose by in places like California and New York along with slimming margins in Texas. But Sanders opens up that possibility. We definitely do not need President Trump with a strong mandate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swampfrog View Post
    As if Russia "meddling" wasn't messy enough in 2016.

    Sanders told Russia is trying to help his campaign



    What exactly is being proposed here? You've seen the tweets and "stuff", are you going to stop them from tweeting?
    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    Is it correlation or causation that as Sanders is surging toward the nomination, Trump is surging too? Trump's numbers are better than ever, literally days after being acquitted in the impeachment trial. Biggest news is that the Quinnipiac poll out just yesterday has Trump 7-11 points ahead of all democrats in Wisconsin. If Sanders is nominated, Democrats will be conceding Florida. Floridians of Cuban ancestry almost to a person won't vote for lifelong Communist and admirer of Castro. Retireds who lived through the Cold War, about the same, especially those who are pro-Israel. Conceding Florida is like cutting your hand off before a fight. If Trump has Wisconsin and Florida secured, that's ballgame, to say nothing about what that portends about the other swing states and states newly in play. For a preview of what appears to be happening, see Johnson vs. Corbyn.

    The woke and socialists should be careful what they wish for. If Trump wins a landslide popular vote and 39-44 states vs. Sanders, that's the end of woke and socialist movements.
    Don't worry SU... The DNC has an "insurance policy" for stopping Sanders: play the "he is a Russian agent/asset" card. The fix is in!


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    LOL@Joe... The old Joe Biden is back!

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    Quote Originally Posted by myboynoah View Post


    Write in Mitt!!!
    You may not need to write in Mitt. If Bloomberg wins the Dems nomination I am guessing Mitt will be his running mate... They are like two peas in a pod:

    Are Mike Bloomberg and Mitt Romney the same candidate?
    [...]
    But Bloomberg and Romney have much more in common than try-hard jokes. Their underlying pitches — and their challenges — are nearly identical.

    Both are smart, wealthy men who made fortunes in ways many Americans don’t understand. Both believe they deserve their wealth. (“Yes,” Bloomberg said flatly when asked as much during Wednesday’s debate.) Both parlayed that success into winning elections as moderate problem solvers in deeply blue areas.

    Both have tried to run for president by creating an air of inevitability, via an unremitting flow of money. In the 2008 race, Romney massively outspent his rivals in Iowa — in one instance, at the non-binding Iowa straw poll, he provided voters luxuries such as free barbecue and golf cart rides. On top of his pervasive national advertising, Bloomberg pays his staff huge salaries and furnishes his rally attendees with catered buffets. (If you can’t appeal to voters’ hearts, you appeal to their heads or, if it comes down to it, their literal guts.)

    And, like Romney, Bloomberg tries to fit in with his party. Both men made convenient shifts on policy in order to pursue the presidency — Romney against abortion and health-care reform, Bloomberg reversing his support for the stop-and-frisk policing he defended during his time as mayor — but neither developed persuasive explanations. Instead, the pandering was so transparent it clarified the implied appeal: Just let me be the manager; I’m not an inspiring reformer, but I can run a railroad.

    The root pitch for both candidates is that they are the careful, competent, electable guys. Romney advertised how he saved the 2002 Salt Lake City Winter Olympics and built up businesses such as Staples and Sports Authority. On Thursday in Salt Lake, the words “common sense” appeared three times in Bloomberg’s short speech.
    [...]
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...ame-candidate/

    They would be the dream team and may be the Dems last hope in defeating Drumpf!
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    I wonder if Bloomberg jumping into the race only helps Sanders. One more moderate to split the vote and let Sanders glide to the nomination. Had Bloomberg not been at the debate this week, most of the fire would have been directed at Sanders as the frontrunner. Instead most of the time was spent trying to discredit Bloomberg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beefytee View Post
    I wonder if Bloomberg jumping into the race only helps Sanders. One more moderate to split the vote and let Sanders glide to the nomination. Had Bloomberg not been at the debate this week, most of the fire would have been directed at Sanders as the frontrunner. Instead most of the time was spent trying to discredit Bloomberg.
    Joining any debate before Super Tuesday was a huge mistake by Bloomberg. The other candidates have been debating for 8 months, there is nothing fresh for the them to say to each other. Bloomberg jumped right into a hornets nest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beefytee View Post
    I wonder if Bloomberg jumping into the race only helps Sanders. One more moderate to split the vote and let Sanders glide to the nomination. Had Bloomberg not been at the debate this week, most of the fire would have been directed at Sanders as the frontrunner. Instead most of the time was spent trying to discredit Bloomberg.
    I think Bloomberg is also helping Drumpf... He has pumped over $450 million into the president's economy!
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    The Math Dude says the Democrat party is not the party of working class Americans...



    Yeah, it is clearly the party of the socialist Bernie fan boys and girls that live in their parents' basements.
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    The Dem party needs someone to save it from Bernie...



    #MittHappens!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ted View Post


    #MittHappens!
    Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

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    More Dem meltdown over Bernie Nevada win...

    James Carville: "Democrats who think Sanders can beat Trump are fools, incredible stupidity..."



    Carville: “If you’re voting for him because you think he’ll win the election, because he’ll galvanize heretofore sleepy parts of an electorate, then politically, you’re a fool. And that’s just a fact. It’s no denying it, there’s so much political science, so much research on this that it’s not even a debatable question. And if people are appraised of this, and they know that, and they want to do it as Democrats, that’s their own business. But I don’t think they have all the facts that they need before they make this judgment going forward."

    Nicolle Wallace: “You’re describing a lot what sounds like political suicide?”

    Carville: "It is."


    And Chris Mathews is saying if it comes down to Bernie and Drumpf then vote for Drumpf...

    MSNBC Matthews to Establishment Democrats: Vote for Trump
    [...]
    Over at MSNBC, a network that has received the ire of the Sanders campaign due to their overt bias against Bernie, one host appears to be making the case for Donald Trump. Granted, this was more directed toward the Democratic Party establishment and the rest of the anti-Sanders wing. But Chris Matthews, who has railed against Bernie’s candidacy, even suggesting an electoral slaughter, all but told this group of voters to vote for Trump. He virtually said it on live television. To be blunt, Matthews said that the Democratic Party establishment would be better off with four more years of Trump than a Sanders administration and the revolutionary baggage that comes with it.
    [...]
    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattve...ency-n2561741?

    And Matthews compares the rise of Bernie to the WWII fall of France...

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    Speaking of being over...

    WATCH: Biden Can’t Remember What Son’s Job Was, Thinks He Was U.S. Attorney General

    Democrat presidential candidate Joe Biden could not remember what his late son Beau Biden did for work during a CNN town hall event on Thursday night, falsely claiming that his son was “Attorney General of the United States.”


    “Never direct the Justice Department as to who they should or should not indict and under what circumstances they should or should not,” Biden told the audience at the event. “That is an independent judgement to be made.”

    “My son, the one who, my deceased son, was the Attorney General of the United States,” Biden falsely claimed, adding, “and before that, he was a federal prosecutor in one of the largest offices in the country in Philadelphia.”
    [...]
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/watch...torney-general

    Sad... Alzheimer's is a terrible disease.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frank ryan View Post
    Mitt would be great and I would vote for him if he could win, but I’m voting for the democrat because they are not an asset for an adversarial government.
    Really? Is there anyone more pro-russia than Sanders? Or, I guess, pro-USSR.
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    Anderson Cooper interview with Bernie.

    "Modest tax on wall street speculation."
    Translation: "I am going to wipe out your 401k".

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    Camus wrote The Plague as metaphor for fascism. I was thinking that if current events were a novel the Coronavirus would be interpreted as a metaphor for the socialism virus infecting America. Even coming from China.
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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    Really? Is there anyone more pro-russia than Sanders? Or, I guess, pro-USSR.

    Russia (not USSR), possibly:

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...russia/603433/

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    Here in South Carolina, Tom Steyer must be dropping tens of millions of dollars on ads. He's on every YouTube/facebook video, TV channel, mailbox, and radio that you interact with. Buttiegeg has some quality ads that seek to separate him from the marketing of others. The Bernie TV spots border on the cult of personality, and focus on legalizing marijuana and expunging records. Almost everyone in his ads is African-American or under age 30.

    I bet Biden still wins here.
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    Bloomberg took out a full page ad in the local paper here. It probably has a local circulation of 2000, if that. I was impressed.

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    Steyer was hitting Utah pretty hard with ads for a while - and he still has some playing. But nothing - NOTHING - like what Bloomberg has running. Feels like the last couple of times I've been watching TV, every ad set includes one for Bloomberg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie View Post
    Steyer was hitting Utah pretty hard with ads for a while - and he still has some playing. But nothing - NOTHING - like what Bloomberg has running. Feels like the last couple of times I've been watching TV, every ad set includes one for Bloomberg.
    Other than a mailer, I have not seen a single ad for Bloomberg anywhere here. Maybe my profile lets them know that I hate the son-of-a-bitch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wuapinmon View Post
    Other than a mailer, I have not seen a single ad for Bloomberg anywhere here. Maybe my profile lets them know that I hate the son-of-a-bitch.
    Which son-of-a-bitch do you like in the primaries?
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