The 2020 Presidential Election Primary Thread

[frank ryan]

Nice to see Uncle Q keeps going to Tucker Carlson’s website for hard-hitting analysis.

[Northwestcoug]

This thread isn't the best fit, though I suppose if the Ohio legislature piles on the stupid the state could turn blue:

One-fifth of representatives in the House, all Republicans, have signed onto House Bill 182 sponsored by state Rep. John Becker (R-Union Twp.) that would prohibit most insurance companies from offering coverage for abortion services.

“The intent is to save lives and reduce the cost of employers and employees health care insurance," Becker says.

The bill would ban nontherapeutic abortions that include "drugs or devices used to prevent the implantation of a fertilized ovum.”

Becker says the bill also speaks to coverage of ectopic or tubal pregnancies where the fertilized egg attaches outside of the womb.

“Part of that treatment would be removing that embryo from the fallopian tube and reinserting it in the uterus so that is defined as not an abortion under this bill," Becker explains.

“That doesn’t exist in the realm of treatment for ectopic pregnancy," argues says Jaime Miracle, deputy director of NARAL Pro-Choice Ohio. "You can’t just re-implant. It’s not a medical thing."

https://wosu2.drupal.publicbroadcast...rtion#stream/0

The oral contraceptive pill, as defined by the representative, can sometimes be an abortifacient. I'll give him points for creativity. I don't think anyone has ever promoted a culture of life by proposing reimplantation of ectopic pregnancies in the uterus. I presume the bill will allocate funding to medical research, since there is no current technology that can save an ectopic fetus.

We deserve our political class.

[Commando]

Shocking! That when there is one candidate on one side and dozens on the other that the single candidate gets the most number of donations.

Edit: Headline could have easily read. Twice as many women donate to the democrats than to the republicans.

Ouch.

[Northwestcoug]

Alabama to Ohio: hold my beer.

The measure would effectively ban most abortions at every stage of pregnancy and criminalize the procedure for doctors, who could be charged with a felony and face up to 99 years in prison for performing an abortion unless a woman’s health was at “serious” risk. On Thursday, in a maneuver that helped set off a chorus of shouts and screams on the Senate floor, some Republicans sought to abandon provisions that would have allowed exceptions to the abortion ban in cases of rape or incest.

The House has already passed a measure without such exceptions, and a Senate committee added them on Wednesday, stirring anger from some who thought they watered down the effort to ban abortion as broadly as possible and to force a new look at Roe v. Wade, the 1973 landmark case that legalized abortion up to the point when a fetus is viable outside the womb, usually about 24 weeks into a pregnancy. Although the Senate removed the exceptions on Thursday, the provision could be restored before a final vote.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/09/u...imes&smtyp=cur

[Uncle Ted]

Joe Biden wants Medicare for all Americans everyone!

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What a super nice guy!

[Northwestcoug]

South Carolina to Ohio and Alabama: Leroy Jenkins!!!!

South Carolina State Rep. Nancy Mace (R) said that weeks after sharing a personal story about being raped, she was attacked by her Republican colleague.

Mace, “gave the speech two weeks ago, successfully persuading the House to allow exceptions for rape and incest in a proposed 6-week ‘fetal heartbeat’ abortion ban. On Tuesday, she returned to her desk to find a card left there by Magnuson,” a report from The Charlotte Observer explained.

State Rep. Josiah Magnuson had distributed the card, produced by Personhood SC, which said: “In the case of conception due to rape it is a twisted logic that would kill the unborn child for the misdeed of the parent.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/05/rep...a-rape-victim/

[Walter Sobchak]

Do not invoke the name of Leroy Jenkins in a political context.

[Uncle Ted]

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Well, at least one of them realizes they have a problem.

[Northwestcoug]

Pat Robertson, voice of....reason in the abortion debate?!?

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[Uncle Ted]

[YOhio]

lol. What a clown.

[BigPiney]

23 and Me: the Democratic Primary!

[frank ryan]

Not really surprised it goes with what I've stated about Gabbard being a shit candidate and a pro-Kremlin/Authoritarian apologist.

Tulsi Gabbard’s Campaign Is Being Boosted by Putin Apologists
The Hawaii congresswoman is quickly becoming the top candidate for Democrats who think the Russian leader is misunderstood.

Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard’s campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination is being underwritten by some of the nation’s leading Russophiles.

Donors to her campaign in the first quarter of the year included: Stephen F. Cohen (his wife is the publisher of The Nation), a Russian studies professor at New York University and prominent Kremlin sympathizer; Sharon Tennison, a vocal Putin supporter who nonetheless found herself detained by Russian authorities in 2016; and an employee of the Kremlin-backed broadcaster RT, who appears to have donated under the alias “Goofy Grapes.”

Gabbard is one of her party’s more Russia-friendly voices in an era of deep Democratic suspicion of the country over its efforts to tip the 2016 election in favor of President Donald Trump. Her financial support from prominent pro-Russian voices in the U.S. is a small portion of the total she’s raised. But it still illustrates the degree to which she deviates from her party’s mainstream on such a contentious and high-profile issue.

Data on Gabbard’s financial supporters only covers the first three months of the year. In that time, her campaign received just over $1,000 from Cohen, arguably the nation’s leading intellectual apologist for Russian president Vladimir Putin.

Tennison donated to Gabbard no fewer than five times, eventually reaching the per-cycle individual contribution limit in mid-March. Tennison and her group, the Center for Citizen Initiatives, have long worked to improve U.S.-Russia relations, in part by organizing junkets to the nation both before and after the fall of the Soviet Union. She’s also been an outspoken Putin supporter, dubbing him a “straightforward, reliable and exceptionally inventive man” in a column last year. Tennison wrote that column in spite of her detention in Russia two years earlier, when she was accused of attempting to covertly advance U.S. foreign policy interests in the country.

Gabbard also got a $1,000 contribution from “Goofy Grapes,” who listed his or her occupation as “comedian” and employer as Redacted Tonight, a current events comedy show on Russian state-backed broadcaster RT. That show’s host, comedian Lee Camp, told The Daily Beast that the person who made the donation “is no longer an active member of Redacted Tonight. And separately, it is company policy to not donate to political campaigns.”

Camp, for his part, routinely promotes the Russian government line on major world affairs, most notably the invasion of Ukraine, political unrest in Venezuela, and the Syrian civil war.

To the extent that those donors toe the Kremlin line on issues such as Syria, they’re more squarely in line with Gabbard’s own views than those of any other Democratic presidential candidate. As a member of Congress, she has personally met with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and cast doubt on widely accepted reports that he deployed nerve gas weapons against his own people.

Gabbard has also been one of the few prominent Democrats in the country to downplay the findings of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russia’s meddling in the 2016 election.

also speaking to her altright appeal:

She has made several appearances on The Joe Rogan Experience podcast, which, while being one of the most popular platforms on that medium, is a haven for Trump-supporting guests. Gabbard also is among the few Democrats who has a captive audience on Fox News, owed largely to her willingness to criticize Barack Obama, as well as her party’s planks on both Russia and foreign policy in general. Tucker Carlson, a primetime host on that network, has publicly defended her.

Though she has not courted their support, some prominent figures in the white nationalist community have flocked in Gabbard’s direction. David Duke, the former KKK leader, has heaped praise on her. And on several occasions, Richard Spencer, the avowed white supremacist, has tweeted favorably about her, including once again this week.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/tulsi-...by-russophiles

[BlueK]

A primary challenge to Amash in Michigan if successful is only going to serve to hand that district to the democrats. This could end up being the same thing that happened with the crazy senate primary in Arizona in 2018. Amash's district only voted 51% for Trump in 2016, but he beat his democrat opponent in that election with 59% of the vote.

[Commando]

Ouch. I bet he wishes the worst pejorative against him was still "creepy porn lawyer." This dumb ass should have done the case low bono or pro bono since it's basically the reason anybody knows he's alive.


https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/22/polit...ent/index.html