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    BYU is predicted to finish fifth. First game for super recruit Kyle Dean who batted 4-5 with a home run.

    BYU wins 21-7 over St.Louis and plays a double header.

    http://byucougars.com/m-baseball/ruc...-season-opener
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    BYU took a double header against St. Louis University, 5-0 and 11-3. St. Louis won the A-10 and is favored to win its conference again.
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    BYU baseball wins its first three games of the season. They haven't started off like that since 1998. Super recruit freshman Kyle Dean has been as good as advertised.

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    In my memory BYU has had 3 decent teams since the internet came along and I could track them. They were good with that skinny junk ball pitcher, Fernley I think was his name, in 2001. Then in 2002 they had some decent hitting with a Vegas stud home from his mission and he played at BYU before going pro, Dave Jensen I think. Then they had a decent run in 2005 before falling apart and choking against TCU in the MWC tourney. Other than that I think it has been decent at times but forgettable often. It sounds like this year they are starting to put things together again. Perhaps being in the WCC is doing the same thing for BYU baseball it did for Women's soccer and volleyball just that the women's sports were starting at a higher level and the mission deal slowed down the progress.
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    Key for this team will be finding that 2nd starter behind Rucker (the Gonzaga transfer). He is a best and is going to be very good. If Maverick Buffo (former Spanish Fork Don) can be that guy, this team can go far. Buffo threw 8 shutout innings in his first start of the season.

    This team can definitely mash though. They return some big bats from last year and they add Dean and Favero (fresh off his mission) to that lineup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
    In my memory BYU has had 3 decent teams since the internet came along and I could track them. They were good with that skinny junk ball pitcher, Fernley I think was his name, in 2001. Then in 2002 they had some decent hitting with a Vegas stud home from his mission and he played at BYU before going pro, Dave Jensen I think. Then they had a decent run in 2005 before falling apart and choking against TCU in the MWC tourney. Other than that I think it has been decent at times but forgettable often. It sounds like this year they are starting to put things together again. Perhaps being in the WCC is doing the same thing for BYU baseball it did for Women's soccer and volleyball just that the women's sports were starting at a higher level and the mission deal slowed down the progress.
    The 2001 team had Fernley who went something like 16-2, it had future major leaguer Matt Carson and Cameron Coughlan, and of course it was loaded with Spanish Fork Dons (Matt Ward, Brad Hales, Casey Cloward).

    In 2007 they were decent, lost in the MWC championship game to TCU. Jesse Craig was a stud that year.

    2013 they had so much potential but they also had shitty Vance Law leading the way. Jacob Hanneman, Brugman, Desmond Poulson. I remember early in the year they upset #2 LSU but they lost in the WCC tourney.
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    2013 was actually Littlewood's first year. Yes, they had 4 or 5 really good players and then nothing else. That was the problem with that team. And what they did in terms of w/l record and WCC play was thought at the time to have been overachieving. They were picked almost dead last in the WCC that year. This is the best team Littlewood has had by far. He's raised the bar in recruiting and it's now going to pay off.

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    Seth Corry will be good at the Y in a few years if he doesn't go pro right out of HS. Lefty clocked at 95 last summer with a 12/6 curve ball, great accuracy and a big stick. Only soph on the All-State roster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillerDog View Post
    Seth Corry will be good at the Y in a few years if he doesn't go pro right out of HS. Lefty clocked at 95 last summer with a 12/6 curve ball, great accuracy and a big stick. Only soph on the All-State roster.
    I could go along and pretend like I know what is meant by a 12/6 curve ball but I don't. Are you talking like a clock where the ball moves from 12 to 6? I would think a 3 to 9 or 9 to 3 would be more impressive but that is so intuitively obvious I am assuming that is not what you mean.

    I did watch Vin Scully commentate Dodger games on KTTV Channel 11 back in the day as well as Turner's "America's Team" on TBS so I get some baseball, but apparently not as much as I thought.
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    12-6 curve refers to a straight down break. No side to side movement. A true 12-6 is typically the hardest curve to hit and when hit, it creates a higher amount of ground balls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJF View Post
    12-6 curve refers to a straight down break. No side to side movement. A true 12-6 is typically the hardest curve to hit and when hit, it creates a higher amount of ground balls.
    Whats different between a 12/6 curve and a splitter or a fork ball?
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    The ball is gripped and thrown differently than those other pitches resulting in a different speed and movement. A curveball is going to have much more movement than a splitter or fork ball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flystripper View Post
    The ball is gripped and thrown differently than those other pitches resulting in a different speed and movement. A curveball is going to have much more movement than a splitter or fork ball.
    Really? It seems like splitters just dive to the dirt. I know very little about it, however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by creekster View Post
    Really? It seems like splitters just dive to the dirt. I know very little about it, however.
    curve ball starts higher...head high in many instances
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
    I could go along and pretend like I know what is meant by a 12/6 curve ball but I don't. Are you talking like a clock where the ball moves from 12 to 6? I would think a 3 to 9 or 9 to 3 would be more impressive but that is so intuitively obvious I am assuming that is not what you mean.

    I did watch Vin Scully commentate Dodger games on KTTV Channel 11 back in the day as well as Turner's "America's Team" on TBS so I get some baseball, but apparently not as much as I thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HBCoug View Post
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    A curve will typically break sooner than a splitter as well. This is partially due to the velocity at which a splitter is thrown and as a result curveballs better have more break because the batter has a chance to see it longer. If the curve doesn't have a ton of movement it "hangs" and those are pitches often hit and hit well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CJF View Post
    12-6 curve refers to a straight down break. No side to side movement. A true 12-6 is typically the hardest curve to hit and when hit, it creates a higher amount of ground balls.
    I thought that was a drop ball or a splitter or something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donuthole View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post

    Baseball is really boring
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
    I thought that was a drop ball or a splitter or something else.

    I am gonna be so ready to scream out "find da hoe, biggun, come on find da hoe!"

    Baseball is really boring, but you people complete me.
    What is the difference between a 12/6 and a sinker? I suppose again it is how it thrown. iirc a sinker is thrown down the index finger.
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    Btw BYU completed the sweep on Monday. On to Alabama.
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    BYU has won six in a row. They haven't done that since Cory Snyder and Wally Joyner played there.

    http://byucougars.com/m-baseball/event/2016/samford-0
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    Just saw this thread. Very excited for the thread and the Cougs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by San Juan Sun View Post
    Just saw this thread. Very excited for the thread and the Cougs.
    It would be great to have exciting baseball at BYU again. Apparently there is an outfielder who won't play for a few weeks that is expected to contribute significantly. I have many fond memories sitting in the stands watching the ball pop out of the field routinely down west of the MC. I remember sadly when BYU wilted in the heat of Tempe when they were ranked 3d.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    It would be great to have exciting baseball at BYU again. Apparently there is an outfielder who won't play for a few weeks that is expected to contribute significantly. I have many fond memories sitting in the stands watching the ball pop out of the field routinely down west of the MC. I remember sadly when BYU wilted in the heat of Tempe when they were ranked 3d.
    Another one, Kyle Dean, is already lighting it up. He may be BYU's highest rated freshman since Joyner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueK View Post
    Another one, Kyle Dean, is already lighting it up. He may be BYU's highest rated freshman since Joyner.
    The rpis of the teams they have played are not stellar but I will take what we can get. As usual the weakness is enough pitching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    The rpis of the teams they have played are not stellar but I will take what we can get. As usual the weakness is enough pitching.
    RPI after playing two teams is meaningless. SLU was the A-10 champ last year and are picked to win their conference again. Samford is also no slouch. They led the nation in home runs last year. They were picked to win the conference this year. The Southern Conference is a good baseball conference. Kyle Lewis of Mercer will go in the top 10. Samford put up over 50 runs on Butler in their opening series with 9 homers. They have All-American Heath Quinn who has 7 HR and 17 RBIs in 7 games this season. He hit 4 today in the doubleheader. He was the Louisville Slugger player of the week last week. He's ranked in the top 50 and will be a 1st/2nd round pick. He was drafted in the 12th round by the Indians out of HS.
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    BYU wins 6-4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
    I could go along and pretend like I know what is meant by a 12/6 curve ball but I don't. Are you talking like a clock where the ball moves from 12 to 6? I would think a 3 to 9 or 9 to 3 would be more impressive but that is so intuitively obvious I am assuming that is not what you mean.

    I did watch Vin Scully commentate Dodger games on KTTV Channel 11 back in the day as well as Turner's "America's Team" on TBS so I get some baseball, but apparently not as much as I thought.
    You were right. Starts high and drops straight down. Same arm velocity as a fast ball but held and delivered differently. Best curve to throw is 12-6. It's brutal to hit.

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