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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Haha. I didn't create this thread, but I fully support it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by imanihonjin View Post
    You are kidding yourself if you think Nebraska will ever be able to even come close to being what it once was in the 80s and 90s. Sure, every 5 years or so, you can have a nice season but to think you are or can be OSU, USC, Alabama, etc. is really not facing the music. Look at Iowa, that is what Nebraska is currently. Embrace it, rather than fire your coach again next year when he goes 8-4 or worse.
    Why can't Nebraska be Alabama? What does Alabama have that Nebraska doesn't?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Haha. I didn't create this thread, but I fully support it!

    Dumping ground for Nebraska posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    Why can't Nebraska be Alabama? What does Alabama have that Nebraska doesn't?
    I guess detractors of Nebraska would say they are in the rich recruiting grounds of SEC country, which does count for a lot. But saying Nebraska can't be Alabama I think is a strawman. Because you know who else can't be Alabama? Probably 110+ other FBS schools including the rest of the SEC and Texas. What Alabama is doing now and what Nebraska did in the 90s is extremely rare. I don't know any Nebraska fan that is expecting that again in their lifetime. But to recognize that another dynasty is unlikely but then make the jump and say Nebraska can't return to being a perennially ranked team that regularly competes for conference championships is silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    Why can't Nebraska be Alabama? What does Alabama have that Nebraska doesn't?
    Well.....Alabama isn't in Nebraska....that is a start. Not to mention is has the storied history (much more than just a really nice 30 year run) and is currently as good as it has ever been. We could also throw in that it is in the SEC, but that would be just piling on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omaha 680 View Post
    I guess detractors of Nebraska would say they are in the rich recruiting grounds of SEC country, which does count for a lot. But saying Nebraska can't be Alabama I think is a strawman. Because you know who else can't be Alabama? Probably 110+ other FBS schools including the rest of the SEC and Texas. What Alabama is doing now and what Nebraska did in the 90s is extremely rare. I don't know any Nebraska fan that is expecting that again in their lifetime. But to recognize that another dynasty is unlikely but then make the jump and say Nebraska can't return to being a perennially ranked team that regularly competes for conference championships is silly.
    What does this mean. Regularly, as in every year, or every 5 years or so. I would agree with the later, but my perception of the Cornhusker fan base is that they feel entitled to the former.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imanihonjin View Post
    Well.....Alabama isn't in Nebraska....that is a start. Not to mention is has the storied history (much more than just a really nice 30 year run) and is currently as good as it has ever been. We could also throw in that it is in the SEC, but that would be just piling on.
    LOL. "Just a really nice 30 year run." Now that's funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imanihonjin View Post
    What does this mean. Regularly, as in every year, or every 5 years or so. I would agree with the later, but my perception of the Cornhusker fan base is that they feel entitled to the former.
    Depends on your definition of "regularly". By regularly, I mean still being in the divisional race in November. I don't think that being a nearly annual occurrence is out of the reach of Nebraska.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imanihonjin View Post
    You are kidding yourself if you think BYU will ever be able to even come close to being what it once was in the 70s and 80s. Sure, every 15 years or so, you can have a nice season but to think you are or can be TCU, Utah, etc. is really not facing the music. Look at Boise St., that is what BYU is currently. Embrace it, rather than hope you will fire your coach again next year when he goes 8-4 or worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omaha 680 View Post
    Depends on your definition of "regularly". By regularly, I mean still being in the divisional race in November. I don't think that being a nearly annual occurrence is out of the reach of Nebraska.
    Think Iowa. Embrace it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
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    I think I have a handle on what BYU is. I would be thrilled with a nice run once a decade or so. What is clear though, is that you don't have a grasp on what Utah's program is. It's cute that you would think that your impact on the PAC has been as significant as TCU's on the Big 12.

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    Other than Alabama having 3 million more people than Nebraska and having a quarter of its population black (vs. under 5% in Nebraska) and bordering a number of states with a huge black population, Nebraska is exactly like Alabama.
    Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by imanihonjin View Post
    I think I have a handle on what BYU is. I would be thrilled with a nice run once a decade or so. What is clear though, is that you don't have a grasp on what Utah's program is. It's cute that you would think that your impact on the PAC has been as significant as TCU's on the Big 12.
    It is cute that you think that was my point. Shows how much you still view the world through a Utah hating lens. I have no illusions that the Utes have been as successful as TCU. TCU started out with more talent and play in a weaker conference. Utah has taken its lumps, but I am satisfied with the trajectory. I don't have any delusion that the Utes will be supplanting USC, UCLA as top dog in the P-12 South, but will be pushing them at every turn.

    The point is that BYu fans in general have a warped sense of where they sit now and over the last 15 years. Very similar to the Nebraska fans posting in this thread. And it is funny to watch you all lecture PBW and Omaha about how they should have realistic expectations about their team and where they stand in the CFB world.
    "The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."

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    Quote Originally Posted by TripletDaddy View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
    It is cute that you think that was my point. Shows how much you still view the world through a Utah hating lens. I have no illusions that the Utes have been as successful as TCU. TCU started out with more talent and play in a weaker conference. Utah has taken its lumps, but I am satisfied with the trajectory. I don't have any delusion that the Utes will be supplanting USC, UCLA as top dog in the P-12 South, but will be pushing them at every turn.

    The point is that BYu fans in general have a warped sense of where they sit now and over the last 15 years. Very similar to the Nebraska fans posting in this thread. And it is funny to watch you all lecture PBW and Omaha about how they should have realistic expectations about their team and where they stand in the CFB world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
    It is cute that you think that was my point. Shows how much you still view the world through a Utah hating lens. I have no illusions that the Utes have been as successful as TCU. TCU started out with more talent and play in a weaker conference. Utah has taken its lumps, but I am satisfied with the trajectory. I don't have any delusion that the Utes will be supplanting USC, UCLA as top dog in the P-12 South, but will be pushing them at every turn.

    The point is that BYu fans in general have a warped sense of where they sit now and over the last 15 years. Very similar to the Nebraska fans posting in this thread. And it is funny to watch you all lecture PBW and Omaha about how they should have realistic expectations about their team and where they stand in the CFB world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Some of these guys are too easy. I hope this wasn't the caliber of poster you were trying to attract with the programming change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TripletDaddy View Post
    Not this year!
    Nope. Glaring deficits in the most important position on the field undermined a stellar season. Helton should offer TW a grad assistant position. I think his performance against USC was a big reason that the Trojans turned their season around, and ultimately why Helton is now the permanent HC. In a twisted way, maybe Ute fans should be thankful for Travis in that he may have single handedly kept USC from hiring Chip Kelly.
    "The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
    It is cute that you think that was my point. Shows how much you still view the world through a Utah hating lens. I have no illusions that the Utes have been as successful as TCU. TCU started out with more talent and play in a weaker conference. Utah has taken its lumps, but I am satisfied with the trajectory. I don't have any delusion that the Utes will be supplanting USC, UCLA as top dog in the P-12 South, but will be pushing them at every turn.

    The point is that BYu fans in general have a warped sense of where they sit now and over the last 15 years. Very similar to the Nebraska fans posting in this thread. And it is funny to watch you all lecture PBW and Omaha about how they should have realistic expectations about their team and where they stand in the CFB world.
    You are the one who put the Utes in the same class as TCU in describing what BYU is not. I don't disagree that there are many BYU fans who have unrealistic expectations, but there are an equal proportion of Ute fans who also feel that way about Utah, so I am not sure what your point is.

    Feel free to link to any of my posts that have stating anything close to the fact that I think BYU should be competing every year on a national level. So, I am not sure exactly why it is funny for you, but go ahead an keep on laughing if want. It doesn't bother me. I hope it doesn't bother you that I am laughing at you for thinking that Utah will push (whatever that means) the top dogs of the PAC 12 "at every turn".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
    Some of these guys are too easy. I hope this wasn't the caliber of poster you were trying to attract with the programming change.
    Says the guy with "burns" from the 80's. Although, this is a good spot for you, many here think they are far better at almost everything than they really are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
    Some of these guys are too easy. I hope this wasn't the caliber of poster you were trying to attract with the programming change.
    If you think it is bad here, you should see the dunces over on LA Ute's board.
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    Who was the poster that told me to f+++ myself when I said that Utah should expect the level of success Arizona and Arizona State had achieved since they joined the Pac 10 back in the late 70s?

    While there is an undeniable level of myopia with BYU fans as evidenced by the posters at CB, I think most posters here are much more reasonable with their expectations. In contrast, Utah fans on here were telling me to go masturbate when I told them exactly how things were going to end up for them.
    Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
    It is cute that you think that was my point. Shows how much you still view the world through a Utah hating lens. I have no illusions that the Utes have been as successful as TCU. TCU started out with more talent and play in a weaker conference. Utah has taken its lumps, but I am satisfied with the trajectory. I don't have any delusion that the Utes will be supplanting USC, UCLA as top dog in the P-12 South, but will be pushing them at every turn.

    The point is that BYu fans in general have a warped sense of where they sit now and over the last 15 years. Very similar to the Nebraska fans posting in this thread. And it is funny to watch you all lecture PBW and Omaha about how they should have realistic expectations about their team and where they stand in the CFB world.
    Do any fans on CS have this warped sense of where BYU sits? I don't live in Utah, and only lived there during college, but this is a claim I constantly hear, and I'm not sure that it squares with my experience.
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    This thread is a good lesson for all of us in humility. You can't argue with facts:

    Utah is where quarterbacks fear to tread. Embrace it.
    Nebraska is boring as hell and has Mike Reilly as a coach. Embrace it.
    BYU is owned by its rival and is sexist/racist. Embrace it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
    Nope. Glaring deficits in the most important position on the field undermined a stellar season. Helton should offer TW a grad assistant position. I think his performance against USC was a big reason that the Trojans turned their season around, and ultimately why Helton is now the permanent HC. In a twisted way, maybe Ute fans should be thankful for Travis in that he may have single handedly kept USC from hiring Chip Kelly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Monstah View Post
    Do any fans on CS have this warped sense of where BYU sits? I don't live in Utah, and only lived there during college, but this is a claim I constantly hear, and I'm not sure that it squares with my experience.
    CS isn't typical BYU fans, so I shouldn't paint with a broad brush.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
    Who was the poster that told me to f+++ myself
    could have been anyone, really
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    Quote Originally Posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
    Who was the poster that told me to f+++ myself when I said that Utah should expect the level of success Arizona and Arizona State had achieved since they joined the Pac 10 back in the late 70s?

    While there is an undeniable level of myopia with BYU fans as evidenced by the posters at CB, I think most posters here are much more reasonable with their expectations. In contrast, Utah fans on here were telling me to go masturbate when I told them exactly how things were going to end up for them.
    I told you to go fuck yourself, but it was over a different issue. Can't say I recall who was arguing with you on your point above. You are still welcome to go fuck yourself if you would like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TripletDaddy View Post
    could have been anyone, really
    True
    "The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."

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