"Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."
Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.
When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
--Jonathan Swift
Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss
There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock
When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
--Jonathan Swift
Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss
There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock
Fine, be outraged at the old guy wearing the Nantucket reds. Why does the college president need to be fired and why are there a bunch of chubby 18 year old coeds writhing on the ground in utter despair? You can swear they just watched the two girls one cup video. (I think I mentioned this video before a few years back. DON'T GOOGLE IT. If you're curious, look for the reaction videos on youtube.)
Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”
The University of Michigan business school, in response to the Black Student Union, institutes an Identity 101 class requirement for graduation.
http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=7014
Princeton student group sez: you guys are clowns
http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=7026
Admittedly, civil disobedience (and even law-breaking) can sometimes be justified. However, they cannot be justified when channels of advocacy, through fair procedures of decision-making, are fully open, as they are at our university,” the letter argues. “To adopt these tactics while such procedures for debate and reform are in place is to come dangerously close to the line dividing demonstration from intimidation.”
Fitter. Happier. More Productive.
You don't get it. It often is not malicious in the most literal definition of the term. But condescension is a form of abuse and aggression.
His appalling attire is all the more disrespectful since he fancies himself a fashion magnate. His exwife says he's stealing her ideas, which appears to be true, given his personal taste in clothes.
When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
--Jonathan Swift
Do the right thing, Princeton: "The overwhelming weight of the evidence argues for rescinding the honor that the university bestowed decades ago on an unrepentant racist."
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/25/op...ol-left-region
When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
--Jonathan Swift
SU, what are your thoughts on Thomas Jefferson? How far should this purge go?
"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
I think Jefferson is a plaster saint. I hope they purge him. I've long felt that we should stop making excuses for people like Jefferson and Washington, when there have been people that came before them who knew slavery was wrong. We've treated this contradiction that the Constitution recognized slavery as a mystery. It wasn't a mystery. Aside from the huge distraction of Washington and Jefferson, there were many men and women who were contemporaries or came before these men and were exemplary by our standards. The world didn’t become enlightened overnight, as throughout history there have always been people on the planet who were completely, 100% enlightened from our perspective. Some of them who are now household names were Charles Darwin, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Paine, Henry David Thoreau, Voltaire, David Hume, Adam Smith, Edward Gibbon, Edmond Burke (a religious man who has become known as the father of modern conservatism, actually), Ralph Waldo Emerson, Joseph Priestley (a clergyman), Mark Twain, and many others including women such as Mary Wollstonecraft, Madame Roland and Olympe de Gouges who are today less prominent in history.
Still, at least Washington and Jefferson admitted in their lifetimes that what they were doing to black people was egregiously immoral, which is quite unusual if you think about it, and better than Woodrow Wilson, Brigham Young, and J. Reuben Clark.
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When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
--Jonathan Swift
"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
--Jonathan Swift
But under your scenario, a person must be perfect and completely in line with 22d Century morals, or otherwise should be purged. None of those individuals were on the forefront of gay marriage so all historical figures should be purged. We should eliminate the names of all historical figures from any street, town, public building, university, school, because each and every one is not as enlightened as humanity will be in the coming centuries. We should countenance no tolerance of imperfection; only people who anticipate each and every social development over the next thousand years is worthy of mention.
I agree, all people should be burned from our records and memories. You go SU, purge everybody. Nihilism is the only way. Long live Nietzsche!
"Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."
Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.
But didn't you also say Washington and Jefferson acknowledged the wrongness of slavery? And why doesn't Washington get credit for freeing his slaves?
I agree, by the way, with your assignment of Franklin as an enlightened individual, as further evidenced by the fact that after his death, he was among those who asked Wilfred Woodruff to perform posthumous ordinances.
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"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
"Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."
Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.
I agree that someone should not be given a pass because he was a US president. I hate the timing and the manner in which it is being handled, but Woodrow Wilson was a terrible president. In addition to the things mentioned in the NYT article, he also issued an executive order making it illegal to say or print anything that would "hurt morale" during WWI, effectively gutting freedom of speech and freedom of the press. As a result, when the flu pandemic started sweeping the US, most cities did not print ANYTHING about it for fear that it would be perceived as hurting morale and land them in jail. People went to public rallies and events and the flu spread like wildfire. Hospitals and doctors were caught off guard. San Francisco (and a handful of other cities) was an exception and they issued quick warnings and had fewer deaths as a result.
I also think that Andrew Jackson was a scoundrel. Get him off the twenty.
However, as others have pointed out, the notion that historical figures can be neatly and cleanly divided into good guys and bad guys is simply wrong. Jefferson is a great example. Yes, he did some awful things with his slaves, but he was a genius and had a tremendous positive impact on the history of the US and the world. Also, you and I both love Abraham Lincoln, but he severely curtailed civil rights during the war and even though he helped free slaves, he believed blacks were inferior humans in many ways. But god bless Abe Lincoln. It is OK to acknowledge that people are complex and flawed, including our heroes.
"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
Well said. I tire of people today who stand on the shoulders of history's philosophical giants and spit down at anyone in the past who wasn't 100% pure by today's standards. Jefferson and Washington were flawed like everyone else. But the balance of their lives were a huge net positive for America and the rest of the world.
When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
--Jonathan Swift
"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster