"Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated" - The Rivalry Thread

[Goatnapper'96]

I would. in fact, I think it would surprise pretty much everyone if Utah were playing for the Pac 12 title "every 5 years or so."

I would say that Utah will have a chance to compete for a divisional championship every 3 years - a year where they have a bunch of good, experienced upperclassmen in key positions such as this year. Once every 10-20 years or so the stars might align and they get to the CCG.

[cougjunkie]

I see a few people bashing Travis Wilson. I don't think they realize the terrible QB history up at the U.

Just for comparisons sake, true freshman Tanner Mangum currently has a PER of 142.

2015- Travis Wilson- 127

2014- Travis Wilson- 134
Thompson- 118

2013- Wilson- 129
Schulz- 110

2012- Wilson-122
Hays- 131
Wynn- 132

2011-Hays- 124
Wynn- 123

2010- Cain- 137
Wynn- 139

2009- Cain- 137
Wynn- 130

2008- BJ- 148

2007- BJ- 129
Grady- 106

2006- Ratliff- 133


They have a history of terrible QBs. Not sure who recruits the QBs but they clearly can't evaluate talent.

[Omaha 680]

I would say that Utah will have a chance to compete for a divisional championship every 3 years - a year where they have a bunch of good, experienced upperclassmen in key positions such as this year. Once every 10-20 years or so the stars might align and they get to the CCG.

Even if you accept a three year cycle based on Utah's merits alone (which I don't), how often would that three year cycle coincide with a historically weak year for the conference, such as this year? Not often. This is the best shot they're going to have in a long time and they completely blew it.

I'm diminishing Utah's season!

[Goatnapper'96]

Even if you accept a three year cycle based on Utah's merits alone (which I don't), how often would that three year cycle coincide with a historically weak year for the conference, such as this year? Not often. This is the best shot they're going to have in a long time and they completely blew it.

I'm diminishing Utah's season!

Agree, hence my stars aligning comment. The stars aligned for them pretty well in 2011 as well.

As far as diminishing seasons, if I am a Ute fan I am pretty satisfied with how this football year went.

[smokymountainrain]

I see a few people bashing Travis Wilson. I don't think they realize the terrible QB history up at the U.

Just for comparisons sake, true freshman Tanner Mangum currently has a PER of 142.

2015- Travis Wilson- 127

2014- Travis Wilson- 134
Thompson- 118

2013- Wilson- 129
Schulz- 110

2012- Wilson-122
Hays- 131
Wynn- 132

2011-Hays- 124
Wynn- 123

2010- Cain- 137
Wynn- 139

2009- Cain- 137
Wynn- 130

2008- BJ- 148

2007- BJ- 129
Grady- 106

2006- Ratliff- 133


They have a history of terrible QBs. Not sure who recruits the QBs but they clearly can't evaluate talent.

this should go in the Ouch! thread. Ouch!

[Omaha 680]

Agree, hence my stars aligning comment. The stars aligned for them pretty well in 2011 as well.

As far as diminishing seasons, if I am a Ute fan I am pretty satisfied with how this football year went.

I wouldn't be. I know 9-3 before the season would have been considered a success. But just like you should adjust your expectations down when things go wrong in a season, you should also adjust them up when things go your way. After they blasted Oregon and everyone in the South kept losing, it should have been CCG or bust.

[TripletDaddy]

I wouldn't be. I know 9-3 before the season would have been considered a success. But just like you should adjust your expectations down when things go wrong in a season, you should also adjust them up when things go your way. After they blasted Oregon and everyone in the South kept losing, it should have been CCG or bust.

it was, hence bust.

[Jarid in Cedar]

I see a few people bashing Travis Wilson. I don't think they realize the terrible QB history up at the U.

Just for comparisons sake, true freshman Tanner Mangum currently has a PER of 142.

2015- Travis Wilson- 127

2014- Travis Wilson- 134
Thompson- 118

2013- Wilson- 129
Schulz- 110

2012- Wilson-122
Hays- 131
Wynn- 132

2011-Hays- 124
Wynn- 123

2010- Cain- 137
Wynn- 139

2009- Cain- 137
Wynn- 130

2008- BJ- 148

2007- BJ- 129
Grady- 106

2006- Ratliff- 133


They have a history of terrible QBs. Not sure who recruits the QBs but they clearly can't evaluate talent.

You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit

[Pelado]

You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit

Correct. You have to kill the shit producer to make the salad.

Is it possible to make salad sound even less appetizing?

[wally]

I wouldn't be. I know 9-3 before the season would have been considered a success. But just like you should adjust your expectations down when things go wrong in a season, you should also adjust them up when things go your way. After they blasted Oregon and everyone in the South kept losing, it should have been CCG or bust.

it was, hence bust.

Haha, you Jokers! Cougs calling out cougs for not expressing sufficient Utah-hate? Go ahead and excommunicate them for sympathizing with "apostates!"

PAC12 SOUTH CO-CHAMPS, BABY!!

[Omaha 680]

Haha, you Jokers! Cougs calling out cougs for not expressing sufficient Utah-hate? Go ahead and excommunicate them for sympathizing with "apostates!"

PAC12 SOUTH CO-CHAMPS, BABY!!

Hey, this isn't about hate! If I wanted to talk about Utah hate, I'd just say that I wish the meteor that JL is always calling down on Ohio State would hit RES and that the campus would burn to the ground.

Note to mpfunk: I don't actually wish a meteor would hit RES. That would be sad...mostly because a significant meteor strike at RES would surely cause some damage to BYU as well. But I guess a lot of Utah students would die which would also be kind of sad.

[CJF]

Hey, this isn't about hate! If I wanted to talk about Utah hate, I'd just say that I wish the meteor that JL is always calling down on Ohio State would hit RES and that the campus would burn to the ground.

Note to mpfunk: I don't actually wish a meteor would hit RES. That would be sad...mostly because a significant meteor strike at RES would surely cause some damage to BYU as well. But I guess a lot of Utah students would die which would also be kind of sad.

Only because most of them are BYU fans.

[Blueintheface]

Hey, this isn't about hate! If I wanted to talk about Utah hate, I'd just say that I wish the meteor that JL is always calling down on Ohio State would hit RES and that the campus would burn to the ground.

Note to mpfunk: I don't actually wish a meteor would hit RES. That would be sad...mostly because a significant meteor strike at RES would surely cause some damage to BYU as well. But I guess a lot of Utah students would die which would also be kind of sad.

Just kind of.

[Applejack]

Haha, you Jokers! Cougs calling out cougs for not expressing sufficient Utah-hate? Go ahead and excommunicate them for sympathizing with "apostates!"

PAC12 SOUTH CO-CHAMPS, BABY!!

It feels good to be the co-champ.

[falafel]

It feels good to be the co-champ.

Of the south.