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    I listened to the leaked album (don't worry Swifties, I pre-ordered too!), and . . . it's fantastic. The reviews are raving, with the NYTimes being almost over the top. But I don't need the reviews to know what I hear -- some pretty amazing songs. The bonus tracks that are only on the Target version are some of my favorites --- they should be on the main album.

    On a few songs I hear Bruce Springsteen ala "Streets of Philadelphia," and other songs are reminiscent of the Drive soundtrack. This is going to be an album I put on for long road trips.

    My favorites so far: Style, I Know Places, and Clean. The single and other released songs are actually my least favorite songs on the whole album.

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    I don't understand this thread.

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    Need to pick this up

    But don't we already have a T-Swifty thread? Pretty sure Levin started it.
    So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveCoug View Post
    I don't understand this thread.
    We don't have a thread called "Lame Music" or "Stuff my 9 year old daughter is into". So we have to put it here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkGrace View Post
    Need to pick this up

    But don't we already have a T-Swifty thread? Pretty sure Levin started it.
    a million threads couldn't describe the unbounded artistic ability of taylor alison swift
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    Don't let the bastards get you down Levin. I think your Taylor Swift crush is adorable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Don't let the bastards get you down Levin. I think your Taylor Swift crush is adorable.
    What Marilynne Robinson and Tolstoy are to literature, Taylor Swift is to pop and country music. What can I say? I like the best!

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    Just listen to "Style" --- if you don't like that song, then you never were a child of the 1980s and Miami Vice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Levin View Post
    What Marilynne Robinson and Tolstoy are to literature, Taylor Swift is to pop and country music. What can I say? I like the best!
    Don't apologize for exquisite taste!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Levin View Post
    What Marilynne Robinson and Tolstoy are to literature, Taylor Swift is to pop and country music. What can I say? I like the best!
    She's a pop princess, true. But she's not the Tolstoy of Pop, she's more like the Stephanie Meyer of pop. Very popular, quite catchy, but ultimately pretty forgettable.
    PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creekster View Post
    She's a pop princess, true. But she's not the Tolstoy of Pop, she's more like the Stephanie Meyer of pop. Very popular, quite catchy, but ultimately pretty forgettable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by creekster View Post
    She's a pop princess, true. But she's not the Tolstoy of Pop, she's more like the Stephanie Meyer of pop. Very popular, quite catchy, but ultimately pretty forgettable.
    Quote Originally Posted by old_gregg View Post
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    Yes MODS please correct the spelling of the name to Stephenie Meyer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CardiacCoug View Post
    Yes MODS please correct the spelling of the name to Stephenie Meyer.
    See? we're already forgetting.
    PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CardiacCoug View Post
    Yes MODS please correct the spelling of the name to Stephenie Meyer.
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    Someone made a T-Swifty / Aphex Twin mashup. lol. Some of these are pretty good.
    http://www.stereogum.com/1714198/dav...r-so-far/mp3s/
    So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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    I'm an unashamed Taylor Swift fan.

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    Does anyone else here think that if Ellen DeGeneres ever leaves/cheats on Portia, it will be with Taylor Swift?

    I am totally serious about this.

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    When I read about her reaching out to a fan who was being bullied on twitter, I thought that was pretty cool and decided I would have a better opinion of her.

    her music is pretty good too..

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    Quote Originally Posted by creekster View Post
    See? we're already forgetting.
    1989 is #1 in 88 countries. Will be biggest selling album of 2014 after its first week. But I agree, she's so forgettable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Levin View Post
    1989 is #1 in 88 countries. Will be biggest selling album of 2014 after its first week. But I agree, she's so forgettable.
    But could she win American Idol?
    So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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    I like some of her songs and others get on my nerves. I guess that makes her like every other pop flave of the day.

    Worst charted song from her is that we are never getting back together tune. do not like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkGrace View Post
    But could she win American Idol?
    As artist, the reason she sings is because she writes all of her own music. I'm sure she'd win if the competition was also that you could only sing songs you wrote. But maybe you don't put a lot of stock in artists who can also write their own music?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TripletDaddy View Post
    I like some of her songs and others get on my nerves. I guess that makes her like every other pop flave of the day.

    Worst charted song from her is that we are never getting back together tune. do not like.
    Yeah, she's had a few missteps. She's not perfect!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Levin View Post
    1989 is #1 in 88 countries. Will be biggest selling album of 2014 after its first week. But I agree, she's so forgettable.
    How many albums do you need to sell in , oh, say, azerbaijan, to chart at number one?
    PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Levin View Post
    As artist, the reason she sings is because she writes all of her own music. I'm sure she'd win if the competition was also that you could only sing songs you wrote. But maybe you don't put a lot of stock in artists who can also write their own music?
    Why are you asking me that question? I'm a known T-Swifty lover.
    So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creekster View Post
    How many albums do you need to sell in , oh, say, azerbaijan, to chart at number one?
    More than anybody else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Levin View Post
    Yeah, she's had a few missteps. She's not perfect!
    I thought she was great doing her "SNL Monologue" song!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkGrace View Post
    Why are you asking me that question? I'm a known T-Swifty lover.
    Isn't Blank Space such a great song? And Style? And Wildest Dreams? And . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Levin View Post
    More than anybody else.
    I had a friend who once told me he worked in the tallest building in Clovis, New Mexico. Which was true. But, ultimately, forgettably meaningless.

    Just to be clear, I have no strong feelings about Taylor Swift. She crafts nice little pop songs using typically tried and true I-IV-V7 type chord progressions with lots of angsty lyrics that are just fine. I am sure she is very, very good at what she does and it appears that she appeals to lots of pre-teens, barely teens and even a few adult male attorneys. That said, and I could be completely wrong about this, I am not aware that she has done anything to stand out among people who craft pop tunes. She hasn't advanced the genre or made a unique contribution. Nothing wrong with that, of course. But, ultimately, her stuff seems pretty fungible and pretty forgettable. But, hey, I am glad your boat is being floated. how does she feel about wolves?
    PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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