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Wow. That's really funny.
"Socialism is not bad IMHO" - byu71
So that's what you call me. You know, that or, uh, His Dudeness, or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing.
Supposedly this is the October Surprise. I'm surprised at how groundbreaking this is. It's set back surprising anti-mormon efforts at least three decades.Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski
Awesomeness now has a name. Let me introduce myself.
it would be pretty bamf to have an international criminal for a prophet
Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.
You have got to be kidding.
"Socialism is not bad IMHO" - byu71
So that's what you call me. You know, that or, uh, His Dudeness, or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing.
Don't think so, from what I gather. I didn't have high hopes in the first place, but this is pretty lame. Matches what Tom Phillips was saying about depositions and such.
I can't imagine that TSM ever sets foot in England over this.
Awesomeness now has a name. Let me introduce myself.
Lame. They're going to prosecute a religious leader for fraud, for encouraging his flock to believe in religious claims? There's plenty of those to go around. Mormondom seems like a small target.
Seems like a pretty clear conflict of interest for the prosecutor.Tom Phillips, the acting prosecutor, is a retired management consultant. A Mormon convert since 1969, he has served as a Bishop, Stake President and Area Executive Secretary. He received the unspoken and secret ordinance of the second anointing. He also served as the Area Controller for the British Isles and Africa as well as the Financial Director for the Church’s U.K. corporate entities.
Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
"The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
you should be charged with 1st degree stupidity.
Sorry but I view this in the same light as those that sue McDonald's for making them fat. Just stupid.
"Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault
"Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors
People are speculating that there are a whole lot of financial fraud allegations that go behind this. But I'm with you. Not impressed.
Awesomeness now has a name. Let me introduce myself.
LOL, and there are those in this country who admire the European system.
Ex-Mos are hilarious.
This could be a PR nightmare if the media run with it.
We all trust our own unorthodoxies.
Yes, good thing Sooner and SU aren't lawyers.
For who?
Awesomeness now has a name. Let me introduce myself.
Fraud? Is it a question of how the money is being used or how it is acquired?
"Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault
"Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors
Exactly. Cameron could be the guy that finally getsCaponeMonson
"Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault
"Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors
Oh brother
Maybe it is an income equality thing? I admit I don't understand European Socialism although President Obama is doing a good job of trying to teach me.
In Europe do the rich churches have to redistribute to the poorer churches? Perhaps the Church hasn't been reporting it's real income and defrauded the poorer churches.
The Steve Young thing was way better.
So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.
I hope he shows up. It would be a great addition to the scriptures.
The modern day Abinadi!
Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.
For the Church. Reports that President Monson was served in a fraud case, even one like this, are very bad. Your average person out there does not have the education, context, or inclination to look into a "story" like this in any depth. Journalists, who don't exactly love the LDS Church by and large, will frame the thing as they see fit. And worse, this sort of thing fits nicely into old tropes and stereotypes about Mormons.
I don't think this is the Nauvoo Expositor revisited, but in PR terms this isn't good. In legal terms, I assume the Church's army of lawyers will do everything they can to make even this summons go away.
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We all trust our own unorthodoxies.
If the jail in which he was residing were blown asunder I might reconsider my current position.
"Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault
"Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors
Remind me again why ex-mo's care about LDS legal strategy?
"Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault
"Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors
This is lame.
"You are a genius." --cougjunkie
"[...] liberals tend to take the moral teachings of the New Testament literally and the stories figuratively while conservatives do the opposite." -- Harry Tic
"I'll admit that as a non-low-income earner, I wouldn't mind seeing Hillary as president. She's good to corporate America, specifically on the financial side of things. Sure, she'll take her corruption cut, but there will be plenty left over for people like me." -- Edward "Moliere" Jones
This must have been devastating for them from a PR perspective. I can't imagine how the tens of people who heard about it reacted.
So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.
I read this on another site, first time I'd heard it:
The BOM has long been published with the testimonies of the witnesses to the gold plates. But per the fairly recent Joseph Smith Papers Project website, the testimony of the 8 witnesses bears 8 signatures that are clearly all in the same handwriting. The church's response to this is that they only have the printer's version of the witnesses' testimony and the original must have been lost.
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