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    Hatch: the problem with poor people is that they are lazy... including their kids.

    Senator Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) is defending a children’s health care program he helped create, but if the federal deficit balloons by at least $1 trillion as predicted under the Republican tax plan he’s authored and shepherded through the Senate, programs for the elderly and the poor will likely take a hit.

    While praising the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) and indicating the program will survive, Hatch nonetheless said last Thursday, shortly before before the Senate passed its tax reform bill, that Congress must address funding deficits and so-called entitlement programs.


    “I have a rough time wanting to spend billions and billions and trillions of dollars to help people who won’t help themselves, won’t lift a finger, and expect the federal government to do everything,” Hatch, the Senate Finance Committee Chair, said Thursday on the Senate floor.
    https://thinkprogress.org/hatch-chip...-05e0cac2e3df/

    See... the republicans care about fiscal responsibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    Hatch: the problem with poor people is that they are lazy... including their kids.


    https://thinkprogress.org/hatch-chip...-05e0cac2e3df/

    See... the republicans care about fiscal responsibility.
    Like I said. He is a horrible person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Like I said. He is a horrible person.
    And itís a horrible headline as thatís not what he said.
    PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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    With a Steve Bannon endorsement there is no way Hatch will lose to RMoney...

    Bannon trying to keep Mitt Romney out of Senate in Utah: report


    Former White House chief strategist Stephen Bannon is reportedly considering an endorsement of Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) to prevent Mitt Romney from launching a bid for the seat.


    The Washington Examiner in a report published Sunday cited a Bannon associate who said the former top Trump aide is contemplating supporting Hatch.


    “If Steve had a choice between Orrin Hatch and Mitt Romney, he would pick Hatch 10 times out of 10,” the source told the Examiner.
    [...]
    http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign...in-utah-report
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    Nice work, Orrin.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Northwestcoug View Post
    Nice work, Orrin.

    That's disgusting. He's gone off the deep end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frank ryan View Post
    That's disgusting. He's gone off the deep end.
    I'm kind of having a hard time disagreeing with the position that Alabamans should decide who represents Alabamans in the Senate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    I'm kind of having a hard time disagreeing with the position that Alabamans should decide who represents Alabamans in the Senate.
    I have a hard time agreeing with the position a child molester should be allowed to sit in the senate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus View Post
    I have a hard time agreeing with the position a child molester should be allowed to sit in the senate.
    Should, or should not, there be some kind of formal finding against him? Whether that's by the Senate after he's elected, or whatever, it seems like we need something more than unsworn testimony to convict the guy.

    FTR, I believe the women. I don't think he's fit for the Senate. But let's make it official. Maybe that's the Republicans' best bet right now. Work behind the scenes to get him elected (because he's too stupid to drop out and Alabamans are too stupid to force him to), and then refuse to seat him once he's elected. Maybe then they can have the Governor of Alabama appoint another republican to fill his seat. You've got to admit, the Republican Party is in a no-win situation right now in Alabama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frank ryan View Post
    That's disgusting. He's gone off the deep end.
    I am starting to believe Orrin is going to retire rather than run again. I think it is a pretty good bet. Given that is going to retire he knows he can say want ever sh*t he wants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    Should, or should not, there be some kind of formal finding against him? Whether that's by the Senate after he's elected, or whatever, it seems like we need something more than unsworn testimony to convict the guy.

    FTR, I believe the women. I don't think he's fit for the Senate. But let's make it official. Maybe that's the Republicans' best bet right now. Work behind the scenes to get him elected (because he's too stupid to drop out and Alabamans are too stupid to force him to), and then refuse to seat him once he's elected. Maybe then they can have the Governor of Alabama appoint another republican to fill his seat. You've got to admit, the Republican Party is in a no-win situation right now in Alabama.
    Spoiler alert: the GOP is not going to refuse to seat Moore. Trump is endorsing him, the RNC is sending money again, and senators like Hatch are refusing to condemn him. The GOP and Moore deserve each other. May they ride off into the sunset, hand in hand, as the Republican Party destroys itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northwestcoug View Post
    Spoiler alert: the GOP is not going to refuse to seat Moore. Trump is endorsing him, the RNC is sending money again, and senators like Hatch are refusing to condemn him. The GOP and Moore deserve each other. May they ride off into the sunset, hand in hand, as the Republican Party destroys itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    Should, or should not, there be some kind of formal finding against him? Whether that's by the Senate after he's elected, or whatever, it seems like we need something more than unsworn testimony to convict the guy.

    FTR, I believe the women. I don't think he's fit for the Senate. But let's make it official. Maybe that's the Republicans' best bet right now. Work behind the scenes to get him elected (because he's too stupid to drop out and Alabamans are too stupid to force him to), and then refuse to seat him once he's elected. Maybe then they can have the Governor of Alabama appoint another republican to fill his seat. You've got to admit, the Republican Party is in a no-win situation right now in Alabama.
    Here is the proof on Moore...

    Woman shares new evidence of relationship with Roy Moore when she was 17

    Debbie Wesson Gibson was in her attic hauling out boxes of Christmas decorations last week when she noticed a storage bin she said she had forgotten about. Inside was a scrapbook from her senior year of high school, and taped to a page titled “Those Who Inspire” was a graduation card.


    “Happy graduation Debbie,” it read in slanted cursive handwriting. “I wanted to give you this card myself. I know that you’ll be a success in anything you do. Roy.”
    [...]
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.01a94dce2858

    Yep, Roy Moore gave this woman a graduation card when she was 17 and he was in his 30s. Shameful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northwestcoug View Post
    Spoiler alert: the GOP is not going to refuse to seat Moore. Trump is endorsing him, the RNC is sending money again, and senators like Hatch are refusing to condemn him. The GOP and Moore deserve each other. May they ride off into the sunset, hand in hand, as the Republican Party destroys itself.
    You've got to be more calculating than that, NWC! No wonder you're such a rube.
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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    You've got to be more calculating than that, NWC! No wonder you're such a rube.
    You’re right. I’m not used to the seven-dimensional chess that leads to so much winning

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    A good friend of mine who has been a solid Republican his whole life is finished with the party over Moore. He's all over Facebook saying that he is now an independent.
    We all trust our own unorthodoxies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleeping in EQ View Post
    A good friend of mine who has been a solid Republican his whole life is finished with the party over Moore. He's all over Facebook saying that he is now an independent.
    I'm surprised he survive Bush and Drumpf.

    It was Hatch that turned me off from the Republican Party. When he was serious about letting companies to install malware that would damage people's computers to stop piracy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    Should, or should not, there be some kind of formal finding against him? Whether that's by the Senate after he's elected, or whatever, it seems like we need something more than unsworn testimony to convict the guy.

    FTR, I believe the women. I don't think he's fit for the Senate. But let's make it official. Maybe that's the Republicans' best bet right now. Work behind the scenes to get him elected (because he's too stupid to drop out and Alabamans are too stupid to force him to), and then refuse to seat him once he's elected. Maybe then they can have the Governor of Alabama appoint another republican to fill his seat. You've got to admit, the Republican Party is in a no-win situation right now in Alabama.
    Only if you consider acting with integrity to be a losing situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleeping in EQ View Post
    A good friend of mine who has been a solid Republican his whole life is finished with the party over Moore. He's all over Facebook saying that he is now an independent.
    Lol. This is what did it? Thatís funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    I'm surprised he survive Bush and Drumpf.

    It was Hatch that turned me off from the Republican Party. When he was serious about letting companies to install malware that would damage people's computers to stop piracy.


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    He was OK with Bush and was trying to endure 45 on Hillary Hate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Only if you consider acting with integrity to be a losing situation.
    Integrity? We're taking about politicians.
    Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleeping in EQ View Post
    He was OK with Bush and was trying to endure 45 on Hillary Hate.
    Was he a frequent poster to this fair message board?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Applejack View Post
    Was he a frequent poster to this fair message board?
    No. He's a little too "Truman Madsen" for CS. He does go to Times and Seasons, but can't stand Meridian Magazine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    Integrity? We're taking about politicians.
    Ahem...

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/04/politi...ore/index.html

    Republican former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney slammed Republican Senate nominee Roy Moore of Alabama, rebuking the candidate accused of sexual assault and harassment on the same day President Donald Trump embraced him.

    "Roy Moore in the US Senate would be a stain on the GOP and on the nation. Leigh Corfman and other victims are courageous heroes. No vote, no majority is worth losing our honor, our integrity," Romney tweeted Monday in reference to the women who have come forward accusing Moore of sexual assault and harassment.
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    So will Romney primary Hatch if Hatch listens to Trump?

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    Have I missed any discussion of the United Utah party on here? They got close to 10% of the vote in the special election which isn't bad considering the party was thrown together a few months ago.

    Short of Mitt Romney running for them, I don't know that they will ever win any seats, but if they put pressure on Utah to reform redistricting and other procedures that has in the past moved the parties to the extreme, that would be great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    With a Steve Bannon endorsement there is no way Hatch will lose to RMoney...


    http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign...in-utah-report
    I don't think Bannon or Hatch are more popular in Utah than Romney.

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    Hatch issued some statement trying to "clarify" what he said/meant. Says that he "meant to say" was that it was a long time ago - and we don't know if the allegations are true or not. So it's up to the folks of Alabama to determine. Um...OK.

    I tend to believe the allegations. And at a time when we've got people leaving positions due to their history of sexual misconduct, it's disappointing and disheartening to see someone on the verge of winning an election with that stain hanging over them.

    I'm pretty apathetic when it comes to Hatch. He's been there long enough he's bound to have done some bad and some good. I'm among those who thinks he should retire and not run again, and is likely to vote against him in a primary, but prefers him to Jenny Wilson.

    Utah is interesting. Most people think Hatch shouldn't run again, but would vote for him over Wilson. Many more would be excited by a Romney run. I think Romney easily beats anyone else running - no matter who else decided to join.

    And I can see why Trump is encouraging Hatch to run again - because I'm sure he would HATE having to deal with Romney in Congress. Hopefully Hatch can see through the smoke Trump is blowing up his backside and recognize that his time has passed and he will be leaving things in good hands with Romney.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie View Post
    Hatch issued some statement trying to "clarify" what he said/meant. Says that he "meant to say" was that it was a long time ago - and we don't know if the allegations are true or not. So it's up to the folks of Alabama to determine. Um...OK.

    I tend to believe the allegations. And at a time when we've got people leaving positions due to their history of sexual misconduct, it's disappointing and disheartening to see someone on the verge of winning an election with that stain hanging over them.

    I'm pretty apathetic when it comes to Hatch. He's been there long enough he's bound to have done some bad and some good. I'm among those who thinks he should retire and not run again, and is likely to vote against him in a primary, but prefers him to Jenny Wilson.

    Utah is interesting. Most people think Hatch shouldn't run again, but would vote for him over Wilson. Many more would be excited by a Romney run. I think Romney easily beats anyone else running - no matter who else decided to join.

    And I can see why Trump is encouraging Hatch to run again - because I'm sure he would HATE having to deal with Romney in Congress. Hopefully Hatch can see through the smoke Trump is blowing up his backside and recognize that his time has passed and he will be leaving things in good hands with Romney.
    uh...yathink?

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    Hatch vs. Romney would be interesting. Would love to see Romney obliterate him.
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