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Shame on Orrin Hatch - The Patron Saint of Quack Medicine
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Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostThis is insanity. There is no good way to spin that tweet.
And repeating what that poor dad allegedly said about his daughter? Bloody hell.PLesa excuse the tpyos.
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Originally posted by Flystripper View PostSo because she allegedly spoke about having sex with multiple partners at the same time while in high school, and that she allegedly spoke of enjoying multiple partners at the same time in the 90s, it makes her less credible that she was assaulted? The fact that she allegedly had what her dad referred to as "psychological problems" it means that she was not assaulted? To me these "facts" point to it being more likely that she was assaulted by somebody, not less likely. In any case, it is a pretty disgusting display of victim shaming.
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Originally posted by creekster View PostSo this guy reaches out to Hatch. He then prepares a written statement (which has substantially more detail and specific information than any allegation against Kavanaugh to date) that he provides to the Judiciary Committee and which is posted publicly at the judiciary committee website (I assume you followed the link?). After this document is posted with a public link Hatch's office tweets out the info and includes the link. Is there anything there that says it hasn't been or won't be given to the FBI? Isn't gathering information also a function of the committee (spoiler alert: Yes, it is)? So what, exactly, did Hatch do that was so horrible? Tweeting out the fact that the guy's statement was linked on the committee website?
Maybe I am missing some info, and maybe it was Hatch alone that caused this. But that's not what it looks like.As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
--Kendrick Lamar
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Originally posted by Northwestcoug View PostHatch is playing cheerleader and throwing more gas onto what is already a disgusting circus. It is propaganda, designed to move public opinion. This is a ridiculous hill to mount a typical Creekster semantics argument on.
And please stop insinuating I think Hatch is 'horrible' or a 'POS'. I didn't say either.PLesa excuse the tpyos.
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Originally posted by Northwestcoug View PostHatch is playing cheerleader and throwing more gas onto what is already a disgusting circus. It is propaganda, designed to move public opinion. This is a ridiculous hill to mount a typical Creekster semantics argument on.
And please stop insinuating I think Hatch is 'horrible' or a 'POS'. I didn't say either.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk"If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by Flystripper View PostSo because she allegedly spoke about having sex with multiple partners at the same time while in high school, and that she allegedly spoke of enjoying multiple partners at the same time in the 90s, it makes her less credible that she was assaulted? The fact that she allegedly had what her dad referred to as "psychological problems" it means that she was not assaulted? To me these "facts" point to it being more likely that she was assaulted by somebody, not less likely. In any case, it is a pretty disgusting display of victim shaming.As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
--Kendrick Lamar
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Originally posted by MartyFunkhouser View PostYou are missing something. Here is something that you are missing, a Senator of the United States just tweeted irrelevant character details about someone who came forward with a sexual abuse allegation. None of what this guy says is relevant (and yes I read the entire statement). It is this type of behavior that often prevents sexual abuse victims from coming forward.
Seems like if you are angry, you should be angry at Ketterer, or the Judiciary Committee as a whole, or the process entirely. But instead you limit your wrath to Hatch, because he fits your profile of a P.O.S. and you'd like to advance that narrative.Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
"The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by falafel View PostHe tweeted a link to a document sent to the Judiciary Committee, and acknowledged that Ketterer reached out to the Judiciary Committee via Hatch's office (the man is a constituent of Hatch).
Seems like if you are angry, you should be angry at Ketterer, or the Judiciary Committee as a whole, or the process entirely. But instead you limit your wrath to Hatch, because he fits your profile of a P.O.S. and you'd like to advance that narrative.
The Dems need to look on the bright side... this will give the FBI a couple of more witnesses to interview: Mr. Ketterer and the father of Julie Swetnick's father (to get it first hand that his daughter is crazy). This will delay a vote for maybe a day more."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by Flystripper View PostWhat was the purpose of the tweet? How does Hatch typically utilize twitter?"If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by falafel View PostHe tweeted a link to a document sent to the Judiciary Committee, and acknowledged that Ketterer reached out to the Judiciary Committee via Hatch's office (the man is a constituent of Hatch).
Seems like if you are angry, you should be angry at Ketterer, or the Judiciary Committee as a whole, or the process entirely. But instead you limit your wrath to Hatch, because he fits your profile of a P.O.S. and you'd like to advance that narrative."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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Originally posted by MartyFunkhouser View PostYou are missing something. Here is something that you are missing, a Senator of the United States just tweeted irrelevant character details about someone who came forward with a sexual abuse allegation. None of what this guy says is relevant (and yes I read the entire statement). It is this type of behavior that often prevents sexual abuse victims from coming forward.
Personally I tend to think Swetnick has some serious issues (based upon what I have read, this statement included) and I think that all of this stuff should have been handled confidentially if at all possible, rather than to serve as a democratic political ploy or an Avenatti self-promotion. But, if this is how it is being handled, the fact that hatch tweets something that is already public and disseminated really doesnt move my meter much.PLesa excuse the tpyos.
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Originally posted by falafel View PostHe tweeted a link to a document sent to the Judiciary Committee, and acknowledged that Ketterer reached out to the Judiciary Committee via Hatch's office (the man is a constituent of Hatch).
Seems like if you are angry, you should be angry at Ketterer, or the Judiciary Committee as a whole, or the process entirely. But instead you limit your wrath to Hatch, because he fits your profile of a P.O.S. and you'd like to advance that narrative.
Hatch engaged in classic victim blaming and he made the decision to call specific attention to this irrelevant bullshit through summarizing it and tweeting about it. I'm no criminal attorney, but I'm pretty sure that most rape shield laws would have kept this type of information out of court.
If Hatch gave a shit about half his constituents (women), he wouldn't have called attention to this. Come forward with a sexual abuse allegation have your sexual history tweeted by a Senator. Great look there Hatch. I'm sure that is going to encourage sexual abuse victims to come forward. It is dirty politics on Hatch's part.
If it makes you feel better, based on this letter I think Ketterer is a piece of shit too.As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
--Kendrick Lamar
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Originally posted by Uncle Ted View PostTo communicate this information to the FBI and get their attention.Dyslexics are teople poo...
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