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Originally posted by LVAllen View PostActually, I would argue that the conversation has to start with why folks in the US have such hang-ups on breastfeeding, when it doesn't even register with folks from other countries. Why do we fear that men and young men will be reduced to slavering, drooling, mindless piles of lust at the sight of a nursing mother? Because that's not a normal response.
Originally posted by LVAllen View PostIt's just a friggin' breast. Maybe the solution is to encourage coverless feeding in churches so that it becomes background noise and change the focus from "keep your thought pure at all times or sing a hymn" to "You will have impure thoughts. You will see sexual things. Acknowledge it, and then move on."
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Originally posted by LVAllen View PostActually, I would argue that the conversation has to start with why folks in the US have such hang-ups on breastfeeding, when it doesn't even register with folks from other countries. Why do we fear that men and young men will be reduced to slavering, drooling, mindless piles of lust at the sight of a nursing mother? Because that's not a normal response.
I am reminded of the parable of the two monks who were walking and encountered an attractive young woman by the side of a river. She asked them to carry her across. Since they were forbidden to touch females, one monk declined. The other picked her up, carried her across, and put her down. The monks continued walking. After several miles, the monk who declined turned to his brother and said, "You know we are not permitted to touch women, yet you carried that woman. How could you do that?" The reply: "I set her down by the riverbank. Why are you still carrying her?"
It's just a friggin' breast. Maybe the solution is to encourage coverless feeding in churches so that it becomes background noise and change the focus from "keep your thought pure at all times or sing a hymn" to "You will have impure thoughts. You will see sexual things. Acknowledge it, and then move on."PLesa excuse the tpyos.
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Originally posted by creekster View PostAre you also be in favor of permitting women to be topless at will in any location, nursing or not?"I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
- Goatnapper'96
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Originally posted by swampfrog View PostA conversation cannot start with "just a breast", or "just boobs", etc. As pointed out in the video previously linked, of the 4000+ mammals on the planet, humans are the only one where breasts stay enlarged when not lactating. The evolutionary reason for that appears to be because they are naturally a physiological unconscious sexual signal of reproductive health. Which developed for a reason. Evolution doesn't care about manners, etiquette, morality, etc. Only what works to preserve the species. So if breasts are a sexual signal, they must be signalling a receptor in the male counterpart--that is also unconscious. The conversation has to start here. Men and women sexually signal one another all of the time, sometimes consciously, sometimes not. It's not productive to ignore that breasts are evolutionary selected sexual signals. The ramifications of this are discussed in detail in the previous videos linked.Last edited by Jeff Lebowski; 07-27-2018, 03:11 PM."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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Originally posted by Pelado View PostThe attractive ones, sure.Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
"The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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Originally posted by LVAllen View PostThat's not what most people mean by breastfeeding with a cover. They mean they put a blanket, or a shawl, or an apron-like item that literally covers both the baby and the breast. And some babies will absolutely refuse to feed if they are covered like that.
An example:
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Originally posted by LVAllen View PostActually, I would argue that the conversation has to start with why folks in the US have such hang-ups on breastfeeding, when it doesn't even register with folks from other countries. Why do we fear that men and young men will be reduced to slavering, drooling, mindless piles of lust at the sight of a nursing mother? Because that's not a normal response.
I am reminded of the parable of the two monks who were walking and encountered an attractive young woman by the side of a river. She asked them to carry her across. Since they were forbidden to touch females, one monk declined. The other picked her up, carried her across, and put her down. The monks continued walking. After several miles, the monk who declined turned to his brother and said, "You know we are not permitted to touch women, yet you carried that woman. How could you do that?" The reply: "I set her down by the riverbank. Why are you still carrying her?"
It's just a friggin' breast. Maybe the solution is to encourage coverless feeding in churches so that it becomes background noise and change the focus from "keep your thought pure at all times or sing a hymn" to "You will have impure thoughts. You will see sexual things. Acknowledge it, and then move on."
I stated my preference, with which I suspect most people agree. Why are you still carrying her?
And no one should ever say, "It's just a friggin' breast." Good hell.Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!
For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.
Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."
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Menstruation is also a sign of fertility, yet I dont know of anyone who finds a prurient interest in such matters. Many religions and cultures put the woman away in shame, and she has to purify herself before she can come back into general society. Why would thousands of years of breasts-as-fertility symbol be a thing but not thousands of years of menstruation-as-fertility symbol be not a thing
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Originally posted by Katy Lied View PostMenstruation is also a sign of fertility, yet I dont know of anyone who finds a prurient interest in such matters. Many religions and cultures put the woman away in shame, and she has to purify herself before she can come back into general society. Why would thousands of years of breasts-as-fertility symbol be a thing but not thousands of years of menstruation-as-fertility symbol be not a thingLast edited by Jeff Lebowski; 07-28-2018, 03:57 PM."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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Originally posted by creekster View PostAre you also be in favor of permitting women to be topless at will in any location, nursing or not?"Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."
Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.
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"...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
"You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
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Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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