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    My son plans to have his debt paid off in 4-5 years. I am a little skeptical but impressed that they are going to try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    My son plans to have his debt paid off in 4-5 years. I am a little skeptical but impressed that they are going to try.
    Ah, I remember those halcyon days, when my entire debt was going to be gone in 5 years. We were going to continue living frugally and putting off the luxury rewards until we were free of debt...

    17 years after med school graduation, 2 kids later, deferring/forbearing student loans through residency/fellowship, look at me now. Still paying the minimum payment each month, and will be doing so for another 9 years!

    If your son manages to do that, it will be a great achievement and he will deserve accolades. But if a wife defers employment and kids start entering the picture, you have to live. For us, it meant coming to the realization that an enjoyable family life was worth more than the accrued interest we have to pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northwestcoug View Post
    Ah, I remember those halcyon days, when my entire debt was going to be gone in 5 years. We were going to continue living frugally and putting off the luxury rewards until we were free of debt...

    17 years after med school graduation, 2 kids later, deferring/forbearing student loans through residency/fellowship, look at me now. Still paying the minimum payment each month, and will be doing so for another 9 years!

    If your son manages to do that, it will be a great achievement and he will deserve accolades. But if a wife defers employment and kids start entering the picture, you have to live. For us, it meant coming to the realization that an enjoyable family life was worth more than the accrued interest we have to pay.
    Their debt isn’t too bad (god bless Texas) and IHC is going to pay off a good chunk of it as part of his employment package. It is doable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Their debt isn’t too bad (god bless Texas) and IHC is going to pay off a good chunk of it as part of his employment package. It is doable.
    IHC as in intermountain health care? Or government Indian health? Either way, good for him.

    I should say, it is doable for many people. It just becomes difficult for a family to keep deferring a better lifestyle after 10ish years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Their debt isn’t too bad (god bless Texas) and IHC is going to pay off a good chunk of it as part of his employment package. It is doable.
    Good for him. We were lucky to have minimal debt after grad school. After residency and with deferment the principal had increased by 30%. We had bought a house at the beginning of residency and when we finished it was 2003, as real estate prices were climbing. When we sold our home and moved we were able to pay off all the debt before starting fellowship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hostile View Post
    Good for him. We were lucky to have minimal debt after grad school. After residency and with deferment the principal had increased by 30%. We had bought a house at the beginning of residency and when we finished it was 2003, as real estate prices were climbing. When we sold our home and moved we were able to pay off all the debt before starting fellowship.
    Well now you and JL's son are making me feel lame

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    Quote Originally Posted by hostile View Post
    Good for him. We were lucky to have minimal debt after grad school. After residency and with deferment the principal had increased by 30%. We had bought a house at the beginning of residency and when we finished it was 2003, as real estate prices were climbing. When we sold our home and moved we were able to pay off all the debt before starting fellowship.
    Wow. Nicely done.
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    I know UNLV has many dental students who go on to orthodontics, either at UNLV or elsewhere. But from what i've heard, it is fairly competitive; you can't just graduate and then enroll in a orthodontics program. Only the top portion of the class has a shot at that. I wonder if going to a more prestigious dental school allows you to graduate low in the class and still have graduate options.

    Either way, it doesn't mean this guy shouldn't sleep in the bed he made. He didn't want the risk of having to do well at a cheaper school, so he chose to pay more money for more security. Then he compounded the problem (literally) when he chose to continue into an expensive graduate program.
    If one is going to be that much in debt, I think you should risk going to the less expensive school even if it means you can't go to orthodontist school/residency and end up "merely" being dentist. My sister's husband finished dental school with some debt, not a ton, and he's been doing a ton of dental implants and it seems to me that he's doing better than the average orthodontist.
    Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donuthole View Post
    This is the biggest question I have as well. That seems ridiculously low for that kind of debt. I figured these guys were making 350-500k to be willing to take on that kind of debt.
    One of my favorite stories of orthodontia was sitting in the waiting room while HFN Jr was getting something done. The ortho came out to talk to one of the other parents in the waiting room, she asked about his recent trip to Greece. His reply was “it was great, but if you are going to Greece you really need to spend more than three weeks, but with us being gone all next month for the safari we could justify being gone longer”. I was sitting there thinking who tf does this guy think he is a welder?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
    One of my favorite stories of orthodontia was sitting in the waiting room while HFN Jr was getting something done. The ortho came out to talk to one of the other parents in the waiting room, she asked about his recent trip to Greece. His reply was “it was great, but if you are going to Greece you really need to spend more than three weeks, but with us being gone all next month for the safari we could justify being gone longer”. I was sitting there thinking who tf does this guy think he is a welder?

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    This kid’s Venezuelan prison honeymoon has finally come to an end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwight Schr-ute View Post
    This kid’s Venezuelan prison honeymoon has finally come to an end.

    https://www.apnews.com/5a41a04511664d9689813f2450fa3b46


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    Quote Originally Posted by clackamascoug View Post
    Was he an agent? Lot's if LDS agents with second languages. Why the White House invite if he wasn't?

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    Thanks Obama!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    My son plans to have his debt paid off in 4-5 years. I am a little skeptical but impressed that they are going to try.
    It’s doable. No reason to hang onto that student debt because the interest doesn’t help you with taxes the way mortgage interest helps. I paid off all my debt in about 3 years — obviously med school and cost of living overall was much cheaper then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    Thanks Obama!

    People are so dumb. Obviously he's going to be debriefed while he's in Washington.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CardiacCoug View Post
    It’s doable. No reason to hang onto that student debt because the interest doesn’t help you with taxes the way mortgage interest helps. I paid off all my debt in about 3 years — obviously med school and cost of living overall was much cheaper then.
    What is this, pile on NWC day?!?!

    Fine, I had a relatively low debt burden out of med school, and the interest rate was also low. I could have paid it off sooner, but I didn't wanna. Alright?

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    I have around 60k I loan debt with an interest rate of under 4%. I won’t accelerate payment on those loans, but I split excess funds (dividends, bonuses, interest) 40/40/20 (higher interest student debt/college fund for kids/savings)
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    This could probably go in a few threads. But Eric Snider was sort of famous for a few years at BYU. And then he had some notoriety at the Herald, something about ginning up a story with his friend. He's basically been an online freelance journalist ever since.

    His latest Snide Remarks column talks about being gay at BYU and beyond:

    https://www.ericdsnider.com/snide/me...e-gay-we-were/

    I've always enjoyed his writing. He does a really good job with this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northwestcoug View Post
    This could probably go in a few threads. But Eric Snider was sort of famous for a few years at BYU. And then he had some notoriety at the Herald, something about ginning up a story with his friend. He's basically been an online freelance journalist ever since.

    His latest Snide Remarks column talks about being gay at BYU and beyond:

    https://www.ericdsnider.com/snide/me...e-gay-we-were/

    I've always enjoyed his writing. He does a really good job with this one.
    Agreed. Reading SR was easily the best part of Freshman year. The best part of Sophomore year was a winsome lass, but SR was still a close second.

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    I loved Snide Remarks. It was the best thing in the DU in the late 90s. The second best thing was letters to the editor the issue after SR was published each week.

    That was a good column. I'm happy for Eric. Sounds like he is in a very good place and selfishly I'm happy he found that place as a believer, even if that is not the easiest thing for a gay mormon to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northwestcoug View Post
    This could probably go in a few threads. But Eric Snider was sort of famous for a few years at BYU. And then he had some notoriety at the Herald, something about ginning up a story with his friend. He's basically been an online freelance journalist ever since.

    His latest Snide Remarks column talks about being gay at BYU and beyond:

    https://www.ericdsnider.com/snide/me...e-gay-we-were/

    I've always enjoyed his writing. He does a really good job with this one.
    That’s good stuff. I enjoyed his columns also.

    I’m totally one of those people who stopped him randomly and said “Hey you’re Eric Snider. Your column is great!”

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    Was also a big fan of Snide Remarks. Loved his review of "Titanic".

    I followed him on Twitter for a while but he retweeted way too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelado View Post
    Was also a big fan of Snide Remarks. Loved his review of "Titanic".

    I followed him on Twitter for a while but he retweeted way too much.
    Just as an aside, Twitter does allow you to turn off retweets when you follow someone so you only see original content.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwight Schr-ute View Post
    Just as an aside, Twitter does allow you to turn off retweets when you follow someone so you only see original content.


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    lol stop being such a know it all.

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    I'm glad he found a good place for himself. I also appreciate that he isn't holding it out as the right decision for other individuals that are homosexual and LDS.

    I was also a big fan of his writing at BYU. He is a funny guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartyFunkhouser View Post
    I'm glad he found a good place for himself. I also appreciate that he isn't holding it out as the right decision for other individuals that are homosexual and LDS.

    I was also a big fan of his writing at BYU. He is a funny guy.
    Eric is one of the better humorists to come out of BYU. I hope he continues to have a successful career.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CardiacCoug View Post
    It’s doable. No reason to hang onto that student debt because the interest doesn’t help you with taxes the way mortgage interest helps. I paid off all my debt in about 3 years — obviously med school and cost of living overall was much cheaper then.
    Very impressive to pay off your debt in 3 just years! Approximately how much did you have to pay for medical school tuition?
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