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    Quote Originally Posted by pelagius View Post
    I haven't read this thread so maybe someone already suggested this ... but it strikes me that we still need an acceptable shorthand way to refer to the church. My suggestion is we just start calling ourselves Melchizedeks. It's short, still starts with M, and has the virtue of already being whitelisted by the Lord for these sort of naming issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by creekster View Post
    Unlike most of what you post, this is ignorant. The sobriquet issue was on Nelson's mind since the 90s, as you can see from his address in April 1990. This change has nothing to do with a failure of recent lobbying efforts and everything to do with RMN's position. What evidence, apart from possible musings of ex or non-mormons, is there that this change results from a perceived taint on the name Mormon resulting from politics? The church isnt complaining that "Mormon" isn't christ-like enough, they are saying we should become more Christ-like by calling ourselves after him, as his disciples, which he told us we should do in the BoM.
    Was the sobriquet issue on RMN's mind or God's mind, because I was told that the new naming directive came from God and not from RMN.

    And for the record, I say lots of ignorant things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Non Sequitur View Post
    Was the sobriquet issue on RMN's mind or God's mind, because I was told that the new naming directive came from God and not from RMN.

    And for the record, I say lots of ignorant things.
    The statements were made by RMN. Many statements by men holding the same calling have been attributed to God by those men yet later evidence suggested that they weren't. It's up to you to decide what you believe. Is that an uncomfortable position to hold? You bet, I'm uncomfortable, but I'll continue wrestling with God over these matters for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Non Sequitur View Post
    Was the sobriquet issue on RMN's mind or God's mind, because I was told that the new naming directive came from God and not from RMN.

    And for the record, I say lots of ignorant things.
    I suppose it was on both of their minds assuming you listened to RMNs talks in the past and read the Book of Mormon as gods words.

    The issue I took with your comment was that the whole thing arose from lobbying efforts gone astray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Non Sequitur View Post
    The Church wants to have it both ways. They want to meddle in politics and lobby for unpopular causes and then complain when the moniker Mormon becomes tainted and doesn't sound Christie enough. It's nonsense to suggest that God has suddenly decided that when people don't expend a dozen syllables to reference the Church, that Satan and his minions give themselves high-fives. Hopefully the Church will settle on a brand and get out of the lobbying game and back into the religion game.
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    I'm uncomfortable with you people shortening President Russell M. Nelson's name to RMN. It's like you're putting it right back in his face.

    I won't stand for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clackamascoug View Post
    I'm uncomfortable with you people shortening President Russell M. Nelson's name to RMN. It's like you're putting it right back in his face.

    I won't stand for it.
    I'm uncomfortable with you using the single letter M. to represent Marion, please ensure in future communications that use of the full name will be correctly incorporated. I'm also uncomfortable with M. Russell Ballard, D. Todd Christofferson, and others omitting their first given names which were likely given to them in a Priesthood blessing. At minimum they were given those names by their parents and this blatant disregard for the 5th commandment should not be tolerated. This is blasphemous, and pleases Satan to no end. Anyone want to vouch for me at the Stake Center Courthouse?

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    Quote Originally Posted by clackamascoug View Post
    I'm uncomfortable with you people shortening President Russell M. Nelson's name to RMN. It's like you're putting it right back in his face.

    I won't stand for it.
    From now on, I will only refer to him as Russell Marion Nelson Sr. Oh wait, I mean Russell Marion Nelson Senior. Take that, Satan!
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    This was shared on facebook by a former member who almost certainly needs to take a social media fast, as she seemingly spends all day reading fb feeds for political/social activism and then sharing them. And, if memory serves, she has actually announced multiple times in the past that she would be unplugging for a period of time because it would benefit her personally and spiritually to get off social media for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donuthole View Post
    This was shared on facebook by a former member who almost certainly needs to take a social media fast, as she seemingly spends all day reading fb feeds for political/social activism and then sharing them. And, if memory serves, she has actually announced multiple times in the past that she would be unplugging for a period of time because it would benefit her personally and spiritually to get off social media for a while.

    Actually, we like our wives and our kids to keep quiet.
    Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donuthole View Post
    This was shared on facebook by a former member who almost certainly needs to take a social media fast, as she seemingly spends all day reading fb feeds for political/social activism and then sharing them. And, if memory serves, she has actually announced multiple times in the past that she would be unplugging for a period of time because it would benefit her personally and spiritually to get off social media for a while.

    Ha, lots of hand wringing about the invitation. Some are believing it’s a plot by the church to silence women around election time. I guess these people don’t realize they belong to a world wide church and no time table was given for when the fast should start. They also probably over exaggerate their presence and influence on social media.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donuthole View Post
    This was shared on facebook by a former member who almost certainly needs to take a social media fast, as she seemingly spends all day reading fb feeds for political/social activism and then sharing them. And, if memory serves, she has actually announced multiple times in the past that she would be unplugging for a period of time because it would benefit her personally and spiritually to get off social media for a while.

    That twitter thread is a train wreck. People are dumb.
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    Ira Glass talks with producer Lilly Sullivan about a story she heard growing up about men messing with a girl’s mind. Lilly can relate.
    ...
    When producer Elna Baker was a kid, adults told her to go into small rooms with adult men and talk about sex things. Regularly. It was so routine for her that she barely thought to talk about it. Until recently... when she started calling other women who did the same thing.
    Funny stuff, SU. But why didn't they include a screenshot of Eckhart from that seminary flick?
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    i wasn't sure where to put this, but a byu student jumped/fell from the fourth floor in the atrium of the tanner building.

    https://fox13now.com/2018/12/03/stud...-byu-building/
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    I don't know anything about this guy, but another excommunication.

    https://www.thespectrum.com/story/ne...ed/2205373002/
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    Quote Originally Posted by smokymountainrain View Post
    i wasn't sure where to put this, but a byu student jumped/fell from the fourth floor in the atrium of the tanner building.

    https://fox13now.com/2018/12/03/stud...-byu-building/
    Has anyone heard about the status of the student? Last I heard she was in critical condition but still alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluegoose View Post
    Has anyone heard about the status of the student? Last I heard she was in critical condition but still alive.
    She has died. Announced today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smokymountainrain View Post
    i wasn't sure where to put this, but a byu student jumped/fell from the fourth floor in the atrium of the tanner building.

    https://fox13now.com/2018/12/03/stud...-byu-building/
    Looks like it was confirmed as a suicide attempt and the person died this morning. Very sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    Looks like it was confirmed as a suicide attempt and the person died this morning. Very sad.
    https://www.sltrib.com/news/2018/12/...ublic-suicide/

    Just a sad situation. By the way, I do not think this is a BYU problem. The availability of good mental health counseling services at a reasonable cost is a problem across the country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartyFunkhouser View Post
    https://www.sltrib.com/news/2018/12/...ublic-suicide/

    Just a sad situation. By the way, I do not think this is a BYU problem. The availability of good mental health counseling services at a reasonable cost is a problem across the country.
    Crazy that BYU has as many counselors as Utah, USU, and UVU combined yet it's not enough. I would've thought that 1 counselor per 1,000 students would cover anyone that needs help. It's so sad to think about people who feel like they fell through the cracks and don't have a lifeline to grab.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartyFunkhouser View Post
    https://www.sltrib.com/news/2018/12/...ublic-suicide/

    Just a sad situation. By the way, I do not think this is a BYU problem. The availability of good mental health counseling services at a reasonable cost is a problem across the country.
    Yes.

    BYU has 29 counselors and four interns to serve a campus of more than 33,000. According to the most accepted recommendations, that’s hitting the minimum of what a school should have. Others in Utah fare worse.

    Neighboring Utah Valley University in Orem has seven counselors and more than 35,000 students. The University of Utah has 14.25 counselors for 33,000 students (about the same population as BYU). Students at Utah State University voted last year to raise student fees to hire another therapist. They now have 8.5 counselors for 16,000 students.


    “Like any university, we have a wait time,” Jenkins said. “That’s a challenge that we face.”
    https://www.sltrib.com/news/2018/12/...MeBDJkEvRemUpg

    Also:



    https://www.sltrib.com/news/educatio...gh-therapists/
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    so utah has one counselor for every 2600 students, but the wait time is 9 days. Dixie has one for every 2200 and the wait time is 2 days. BYU has one for every 1000 students, but the wait time is 3-4 weeks? hmmmm...

    does this mean more BYU students are in need of counseling than other schools? the counselors aren't making themselves available? or the program is just managed poorly? combination of all three?
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    Quote Originally Posted by smokymountainrain View Post
    so utah has one counselor for every 2600 students, but the wait time is 9 days. Dixie has one for every 2200 and the wait time is 2 days. BYU has one for every 1000 students, but the wait time is 3-4 weeks? hmmmm...

    does this mean more BYU students are in need of counseling than other schools? the counselors aren't making themselves available? or the program is just managed poorly? combination of all three?
    I had the same questions. It seems strange that Utah, with roughly the same amount of students and less than half the amount of counselors can get people seen on average of 8.9 days and BYU has a wait of 3-4 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokymountainrain View Post
    so utah has one counselor for every 2600 students, but the wait time is 9 days. Dixie has one for every 2200 and the wait time is 2 days. BYU has one for every 1000 students, but the wait time is 3-4 weeks? hmmmm...

    does this mean more BYU students are in need of counseling than other schools? the counselors aren't making themselves available? or the program is just managed poorly? combination of all three?
    I wondered the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soccermom View Post
    I had the same questions. It seems strange that Utah, with roughly the same amount of students and less than half the amount of counselors can get people seen on average of 8.9 days and BYU has a wait of 3-4 weeks.
    right, because ultimately, the issue is the wait time. the number of counselors is only an issue insasmuch as it affects the wait time.
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    SUU's wait-time is about 4 weeks right now. (and the enrollment is closer to 11,000)

    I'm sensitive to kids who are in pain.
    In a bigger city, there are typically counselors and therapists available through private practices.
    In a smaller place like Cedar City, there just aren't enough to meet demand, especially as both demand and student-body numbers climb. Students voted to raise their own student-fees at SUU to pay for another counselor, but it just isn't making a dent in the wait-times. In addition, the salaries are too low to attract many applicants.

    At some point, I think that Universities are going to realize that they can't address the scope and breadth of this problem with university-based counselors.
    Short-term help seems vital and necessary, but a lot of these kids need long-term therapy - something that isn't really within a University's mission.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solon View Post
    SUU's wait-time is about 4 weeks right now. (and the enrollment is closer to 11,000)

    I'm sensitive to kids who are in pain.
    In a bigger city, there are typically counselors and therapists available through private practices.
    In a smaller place like Cedar City, there just aren't enough to meet demand, especially as both demand and student-body numbers climb. Students voted to raise their own student-fees at SUU to pay for another counselor, but it just isn't making a dent in the wait-times. In addition, the salaries are too low to attract many applicants.

    At some point, I think that Universities are going to realize that they can't address the scope and breadth of this problem with university-based counselors.
    Short-term help seems vital and necessary, but a lot of these kids need long-term therapy - something that isn't really within a University's mission.
    I think the solution may be using resources like Skype therapy. I have a really good therapist. He is in Florida. I've never met in person. My wife has a really good therapist, she is in Washington. She has never met her therapist. We have more flexibility with times for therapy. Instead of it taking over an hour for a session (have to drive to the office/drive back) a 1-hour therapy session is an hour as we don't even have to leave the house. By the way, both therapists are LCSW's and mine has completed his Ph.D.

    I wonder if some of the solution to this in smaller cities, or even larger cities, is for universities to contract with Skype therapists or even help students be aware of these options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartyFunkhouser View Post
    I think the solution may be using resources like Skype therapy. I have a really good therapist. He is in Florida. I've never met in person. My wife has a really good therapist, she is in Washington. She has never met her therapist. We have more flexibility with times for therapy. Instead of it taking over an hour for a session (have to drive to the office/drive back) a 1-hour therapy session is an hour as we don't even have to leave the house. By the way, both therapists are LCSW's and mine has completed his Ph.D.

    I wonder if some of the solution to this in smaller cities, or even larger cities, is for universities to contract with Skype therapists or even help students be aware of these options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smokymountainrain View Post
    sorry, not seeing it.



    kidding! sheesh.
    How do you think that I was able to put aside my hatred of LeBron James? You clearly are just ignoring the progress made.
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