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Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostCome on. Has anyone claimed this is a revelation?Originally posted by CardiacCoug View PostDr. Prophet Russell Nelson is an amazing, wonderful man but anybody who thinks the Creator of the Universe told him we shouldn’t call ourselves Mormons is completely nuts and living in an insane fantasy world.
Sorry, just trying to help."...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
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Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Posttheir millions - if it succeeds, good for them. if it fails, it's their problem.Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss
There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock
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Originally posted by Maximus View Postnot when they spent millions over the last few years calling members mormons
The silver lining of this is that fundamentalism is the worse part of our church (and religion in general). ie "God told me". Moving away from that or at least reinterpreting what it means when a prophet says "God told me" would be a really important step for the church. RMN is turning the phrase "God told me" into something like "I sorta feel like this is the right thing to do." And that's not a bad move for the church. So, maybe this is unintentionally a good thing.
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Originally posted by The Lord4 For thus shall my church be called in the last days, even The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
So, what is the Lord saying here? Is he simply saying "The name of the church is ___" or is it a commandment to all to require them to call the church by that name? Do we sin if we call ourselves Mormon? Do past prophets need to repent for using "Mormon" as a reference to the church or the people? Is the rest of the world condemned to a lower degree of glory if they call it "the Mormon Church"? Is our adherence to the Style Guide the final test of whether we'll inherit the highest echelon of Celestial Glory?
I just don't see anything in the scriptures that indicates that Christ is offended by any of it. It was eight years after the establishment of the church that Joseph received the revelation setting forth the formal name. Seems that if it was that important, it would have been put in D&C 20, instead of simply referring to it as "the Church of Christ."Last edited by LVAllen; 10-08-2018, 09:01 AM.
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Originally posted by jay santos View Post"God told me" just doesn't fly as a logical reason unless you can answer a lot of other questions along with it like: What were you doing the last 20 years on this and why? Why isn't God speaking to you about all these other questions that seem a lot more important which you have no answer for?"
The silver lining of this is that fundamentalism is the worse part of our church (and religion in general). ie "God told me". Moving away from that or at least reinterpreting what it means when a prophet says "God told me" would be a really important step for the church. RMN is turning the phrase "God told me" into something like "I sorta feel like this is the right thing to do." And that's not a bad move for the church. So, maybe this is unintentionally a good thing."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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Originally posted by jay santos View Post"God told me" just doesn't fly as a logical reason unless you can answer a lot of other questions along with it like: What were you doing the last 20 years on this and why? Why isn't God speaking to you about all these other questions that seem a lot more important which you have no answer for?""There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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Originally posted by jay santos View Post"God told me" just doesn't fly as a logical reason unless you can answer a lot of other questions along with it like: What were you doing the last 20 years on this and why? Why isn't God speaking to you about all these other questions that seem a lot more important which you have no answer for?"
The silver lining of this is that fundamentalism is the worse part of our church (and religion in general). ie "God told me". Moving away from that or at least reinterpreting what it means when a prophet says "God told me" would be a really important step for the church. RMN is turning the phrase "God told me" into something like "I sorta feel like this is the right thing to do." And that's not a bad move for the church. So, maybe this is unintentionally a good thing.
Maybe in 20 years we’ll be back to using the term Mormon, maybe not. I don’t care and I doubt god cares. But RMN cares and living prophets are more important than dead prophets so
RMN also gave us two hour church, so he can do whatever he wants, IMO."Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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