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    Quote Originally Posted by Katy Lied View Post
    This morning I was driving in the right lane on a 4-lane highway, with 2 lanes in each direction. Up above, I see a bicyclist riding in the middle of the road, and I know I cant sneak in next to him and share the lane- I will have to move over to the left lane. Which is ok to do because there is a car ahead and a car behind in the lane to my left, but there was no one abreast of me. I put my blinker on, and the car behind me sees my blinker and then speeds up to fill the gap. So now I cant go left, and I am going to hit the cyclist, so I jam on my breaks and honk my horn at the dick who left me no room to move. In response, the cyclist turns around and flips me off.
    First off, despite the miscommunications cation, thank you Katy for sacrificing a bit of brake light as for the safety of a cyclist. You probably bought them another 10 minutes of life.

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    Milt one of my former attorneys was killed while riding, by a cop using a computer while driving. Glad to see that the County of LA was finally held liable and the family could recompense their financial loss as well. Milt was one in a million, and he was at my side on several of the most exciting days of my life when ole clack conquered NYC and LA in the same year.

    But to crash in a fatal merger the next.

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    Nearly hit a cyclist today. I was heading west at an intersection intending to turn north (left). Through traffic east and west had a green light and left turning traffic had a flashing yellow arrow, allowing a left turn when clear from oncoming traffic.

    There was no oncoming traffic as I rolled up to the intersection and thus I started to enter the intersection to make my left turn. I was about 10-15 feet into the intersection when a cyclist shot into the intersection from my left. He was blocked from my vision by my front left pillar, so by the time I saw him, he was directly front of my left headlight. I slammed on my brakes, and missed him by 3-4 feet. He turned and looked at me and kept going through the intersection. As I started to accelerate again to continue my left turn, I noticed a group of cyclists stopped at the light—presumably the group he was riding with. One of them waved to me as of to say "sorry about that!" while a few others were looking in the direction of the offending cyclist and shaking their heads.

    It has been a couple hours and I’m still pretty pissed about it, because that could have really messed up my car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donuthole View Post
    Nearly hit a cyclist today. I was heading west at an intersection intending to turn north (left). Through traffic east and west had a green light and left turning traffic had a flashing yellow arrow, allowing a left turn when clear from oncoming traffic.

    There was no oncoming traffic as I rolled up to the intersection and thus I started to enter the intersection to make my left turn. I was about 10-15 feet into the intersection when a cyclist shot into the intersection from my left. He was blocked from my vision by my front left pillar, so by the time I saw him, he was directly front of my left headlight. I slammed on my brakes, and missed him by 3-4 feet. He turned and looked at me and kept going through the intersection. As I started to accelerate again to continue my left turn, I noticed a group of cyclists stopped at the light—presumably the group he was riding with. One of them waved to me as of to say "sorry about that!" while a few others were looking in the direction of the offending cyclist and shaking their heads.

    It has been a couple hours and I’m still pretty pissed about it, because that could have really messed up my car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donuthole View Post
    Nearly hit a cyclist today. I was heading west at an intersection intending to turn north (left). Through traffic east and west had a green light and left turning traffic had a flashing yellow arrow, allowing a left turn when clear from oncoming traffic.

    There was no oncoming traffic as I rolled up to the intersection and thus I started to enter the intersection to make my left turn. I was about 10-15 feet into the intersection when a cyclist shot into the intersection from my left. He was blocked from my vision by my front left pillar, so by the time I saw him, he was directly front of my left headlight. I slammed on my brakes, and missed him by 3-4 feet. He turned and looked at me and kept going through the intersection. As I started to accelerate again to continue my left turn, I noticed a group of cyclists stopped at the light—presumably the group he was riding with. One of them waved to me as of to say "sorry about that!" while a few others were looking in the direction of the offending cyclist and shaking their heads.

    It has been a couple hours and I’m still pretty pissed about it, because that could have really messed up my car.
    You might check your directions and adjust your post. I didn't quite follow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donuthole View Post
    Nearly hit a cyclist today. I was heading west at an intersection intending to turn north (left). Through traffic east and west had a green light and left turning traffic had a flashing yellow arrow, allowing a left turn when clear from oncoming traffic.

    There was no oncoming traffic as I rolled up to the intersection and thus I started to enter the intersection to make my left turn. I was about 10-15 feet into the intersection when a cyclist shot into the intersection from my left. He was blocked from my vision by my front left pillar, so by the time I saw him, he was directly front of my left headlight. I slammed on my brakes, and missed him by 3-4 feet. He turned and looked at me and kept going through the intersection. As I started to accelerate again to continue my left turn, I noticed a group of cyclists stopped at the light—presumably the group he was riding with. One of them waved to me as of to say "sorry about that!" while a few others were looking in the direction of the offending cyclist and shaking their heads.

    It has been a couple hours and I’m still pretty pissed about it, because that could have really messed up my car.
    Wait, was the cyclist traveling east/west? If so he was “oncoming traffic” and had the right of way because he would have had a green light. If he was traveling north/south, then he ran a red light and is an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrenrut View Post
    Wait, was the cyclist traveling east/west? If so he was “oncoming traffic” and had the right of way because he would have had a green light. If he was traveling north/south, then he ran a red light and is an idiot.
    Cyclist was coming from behind him, on the left side of the road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bo Diddley View Post
    You might check your directions and adjust your post. I didn't quite follow.
    The directions are sound. You might read again and adjust your brain. But here’s the tl;dr version:

    I was entering an intersection westbound intending to make a left turn to head north. A southbound cyclist ran a red light and cut in front of me before I could make my turn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrenrut View Post
    If he was traveling south, then he ran a red light and is an idiot.
    This.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donuthole View Post
    Nearly hit a cyclist today. I was heading west at an intersection intending to turn north (left).
    Quote Originally Posted by Donuthole View Post
    The directions are sound. You might read again and adjust your brain.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Donuthole View Post
    The directions are sound. You might read again and adjust your brain. But here’s the tl;dr version:

    I was entering an intersection westbound intending to make a left turn to head north. A southbound cyclist ran a red light and cut in front of me before I could make my turn.
    Ok, I'll just take your word for it, because I still can't wrap my brain around it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bo Diddley View Post
    Ok, I'll just take your word for it, because I still can't wrap my brain around it.
    No you are correct. DH has his directions flipped. Going westbound you make a right turn to go north.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPiney View Post
    No you are correct. DH has his directions flipped. Going westbound you make a right turn to go north.

    Im an idiot. Yep. Eastbound. I suppose that’s what I get for A) posting during a meeting that I was conducting and B) being an idiot.

    I’ll just go ahead and take the double down mantra from GM for a day.
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    Sometimes? I mean this guy just looks like he's nuts.

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    Cyclist critically injured after UTV collided with group of bikers

    Witnesses later reported that the vehicle was driving aggressively, cutting corners and accelerating rapidly around turns troopers said.

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    Preliminary investigations found evidence the UTV was on the wrong side of the roadway when it went around the curve, troopers said.

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    My old teachers quorum advisor fromwhen I was a kid used to do this driving up the canyons. He called it canyon driving and would look for headlights coming back. If he didn’t see any, he’d cut the corner on the wrong side of the road. Seemed reckless back then. Sounds deadly now.
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    That is my brothers riding group. He sent me this text

    Bruce Harvey is a guy on my bike team who I have ridden with several times and rode with yesterday. In fact, yesterday I was talking to him as we stopped at the AF Canyon Summit about a new bike he wants to purchase. I went down the Sundance side about an hour before this accident because the rest of the team wanted to ride Cascade Springs down and up, but I didn’t want to do that much climbing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Art Vandelay View Post
    That is my brothers riding group. He sent me this text

    Bruce Harvey is a guy on my bike team who I have ridden with several times and rode with yesterday. In fact, yesterday I was talking to him as we stopped at the AF Canyon Summit about a new bike he wants to purchase. I went down the Sundance side about an hour before this accident because the rest of the team wanted to ride Cascade Springs down and up, but I didn’t want to do that much climbing.
    Wow. Glad your brother missed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    My old teachers quorum advisor from when I was a kid used to do this driving up the canyons. He called it canyon driving and would look for headlights coming back. If he didn’t see any, he’d cut the corner on the wrong side of the road. Seemed reckless back then. Sounds deadly now.
    This is why all of those car commercials that show vehicles "canyon driving" also have a little disclaimer on them that it was a professional driver on a closed course.

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    there is video of the guy driving very fast and reckless down the canyon. looked incredibly dangerous. as of last night, he hadn't been cited, but i'd be shocked if he comes out of this clean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smokymountainrain View Post
    there is video of the guy driving very fast and reckless down the canyon. looked incredibly dangerous. as of last night, he hadn't been cited, but i'd be shocked if he comes out of this clean.
    I would push for more than vehicular manslaughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPiney View Post
    I would push for more than vehicular manslaughter.
    the cyclist didn't die, but sure as hell deserves more than a slap on the wrist.
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    UTV drivers/owners are the worst.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smokymountainrain View Post
    the cyclist didn't die, but sure as hell deserves more than a slap on the wrist.
    Oh, that is great news. Guess I should read better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokymountainrain View Post
    the cyclist didn't die, but sure as hell deserves more than a slap on the wrist.
    Then why are we talking about it in this thread? Shouldn't it be in the "Is it OK to maim and/or seriously injure cyclists?" thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelado View Post
    Then why are we talking about it in this thread? Shouldn't it be in the "Is it OK to maim and/or seriously injure cyclists?" thread?
    That was me. It could very easily have killed someone is why I opted not to start a new thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelado View Post
    Then why are we talking about it in this thread? Shouldn't it be in the "Is it OK to maim and/or seriously injure cyclists?" thread?
    Wanted to confirm whether it was okay before he went to the hospital to finish the job.
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