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    Quote Originally Posted by old_gregg View Post
    bingham attracts talent. families move so their sons can play bingham football.
    With open enrollment you don't need to move for high school athletics. Little-league football, however, does require you to be in the boundaries
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paperback Writer View Post
    Not to be outdone by lambdacoug, my kids' high school (Allen HS) has one game left in the regular season. They are defending 5-A Texas state champs (went 15-1) playing in the largest division. This season they are 9-0 and ranked #3 nationally in an outdated Max Preps poll (don't feel like subscribing for the current rankings) and are ranked #2 nationally by USA today. Just thought I'd post this now in case they get upset next Friday night or lose in the playoffs. BTW, their Center has verballed to BYU.

    Prep football in Texas can be kind of crazy especially when playoffs start. Many later round playoff games are played in College stadiums and sometimes NFL stadiums like Cowboys Stadium and Reliant Stadium. Watching video of the Bountiful-Logan playoff game, I kept thinking where are all the fans? Maybe it's the camera angle. But regular season football games for my kids' HS usually draw 10K-15K and sometimes their home stadium sells out (holds 18K). Even more attend playoff games. Friday Night Lights, baby.
    In '93, my senior year we drew a crowd of over 12k IIRC, which was the state record at the time. I forget who we played that day, but we had ESPN in town to capture our star receiver as he broke Jerry Rice's HS reception record, which he did. I'm not sure if he still holds the record or not. We won the first state championship that year going 13-1 losing by a score of 6-7 to Rockhurst which was ranked #5 by USA today that year (they had a pick-6). It was all good, we shut them out 3-0 in the playoffs in a rematch. Talk about grudge matches.
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    My High School is 17/17 between the two rankings above. They went from a couple of wins to making the playoffs while I was a student. Now they win state pretty much every year. They also align the little league and junior high systems with the high school.

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    I have a friend who coaches little league football in the Provo/Orem area. He said that the owner of Vivint wants to shift the balance of power from Timpview to Orem HS. So he is throwing obscene amounts of money into sponsoring a new youth league and stacks all of the teams with players and coaches loyal to Orem HS. Kids from Provo/Orem like the play in the league because everything is subsidized and top-notch (uniforms, equipment, ref support, etc). The strategy seems to be to get the kids to play with and become friends with the Orem kids so that they will eventually want to attend Orem and play there. Not to mention the pressure they will get from the coaches. It will be interesting to see if it works.
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    Isn't that kind of what has happened over the years with the schools in SLC? Skyline, then later Northridge, which led to the current rules with where you live, and less open enrollment and other stuff like that. Will they let kids from Provo drive over to Orem to play when they're in high school?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Public View Post
    Unless they are in FCS or Division II/III, in which case a lot of playoff games is OK w/r/t safety and academics.
    It is especially OK since the kids playing FCS or Division II/III are the ones who are much more likely to be relying on academics for their future career and livelihood.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    I have a friend who coaches little league football in the Provo/Orem area. He said that the owner of Vivint wants to shift the balance of power from Timpview to Orem HS. So he is throwing obscene amounts of money into sponsoring a new youth league and stacks all of the teams with players and coaches loyal to Orem HS. Kids from Provo/Orem like the play in the league because everything is subsidized and top-notch (uniforms, equipment, ref support, etc). The strategy seems to be to get the kids to play with and become friends with the Orem kids so that they will eventually want to attend Orem and play there. Not to mention the pressure they will get from the coaches. It will be interesting to see if it works.
    I think this is what drives me nuts about the whole "Ute Conference" for little league football in the area surrounding Salt Lake. Most of the league officials I've run into are Utah fans and push the Utes pretty hard at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    I have a friend who coaches little league football in the Provo/Orem area. He said that the owner of Vivint wants to shift the balance of power from Timpview to Orem HS. So he is throwing obscene amounts of money into sponsoring a new youth league and stacks all of the teams with players and coaches loyal to Orem HS. Kids from Provo/Orem like the play in the league because everything is subsidized and top-notch (uniforms, equipment, ref support, etc). The strategy seems to be to get the kids to play with and become friends with the Orem kids so that they will eventually want to attend Orem and play there. Not to mention the pressure they will get from the coaches. It will be interesting to see if it works.
    My mother was the head of the Science Dept at Blue Springs South (both schools are in the same district). Her rants on how football ruled all decisions made by the district were epic. My dad and I very quickly realized that we could never talk HS football around my mom. When the schools split in 1993 (my senior class was kept together), the football talent rich areas were gerrymandered into the Blue Springs boundaries and the rest when to South, which made South lighter on student population and therefore funds. And this is where I would do my best to extricate myself from the conversation. Little league in the area is pretty much divided into two, those that feed into BSHS and those that feed into BSSHS and there isn't a whole lot of mixing. I'm not keyed into it anymore since I live 40 minutes away, but this is what I've heard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    I have a friend who coaches little league football in the Provo/Orem area. He said that the owner of Vivint wants to shift the balance of power from Timpview to Orem HS. So he is throwing obscene amounts of money into sponsoring a new youth league and stacks all of the teams with players and coaches loyal to Orem HS. Kids from Provo/Orem like the play in the league because everything is subsidized and top-notch (uniforms, equipment, ref support, etc). The strategy seems to be to get the kids to play with and become friends with the Orem kids so that they will eventually want to attend Orem and play there. Not to mention the pressure they will get from the coaches. It will be interesting to see if it works.
    It is actually the owner of Vivints best friend Adam Legas that is leading the charge. Todd Pederson is just bankrolling everything. Adam has 3 sons all quarterbacks at different levels. His son is the one that did the trick shot video a few years ago (seen below). Adam is the receiver with his shirt off. He is pushing hard to get kids to come to Orem and play with his boys. Gunnar is going to be a pretty good qb prospect in a few years.

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    Chase Nelson suffered a torn MCL on the play where he kicked the defender. He said he felt a burn in his knee similar to what he felt last year (when he also tore his MCL) and he panicked and was trying to shake the kid off his leg. That actually makes some sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cougjunkie View Post
    Chase Nelson suffered a torn MCL on the play where he kicked the defender. He said he felt a burn in his knee similar to what he felt last year (when he also tore his MCL) and he panicked and was trying to shake the kid off his leg. That actually makes some sense.
    I saw one of the other angles and it didn't look like he was intentionally kicking him. Considering the injury I wonder if the suspension is a moot point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cougjunkie View Post
    Chase Nelson suffered a torn MCL on the play where he kicked the defender. He said he felt a burn in his knee similar to what he felt last year (when he also tore his MCL) and he panicked and was trying to shake the kid off his leg. That actually makes some sense.
    Darn it. That's really a shame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cougjunkie View Post
    Chase Nelson suffered a torn MCL on the play where he kicked the defender. He said he felt a burn in his knee similar to what he felt last year (when he also tore his MCL) and he panicked and was trying to shake the kid off his leg. That actually makes some sense.
    I saw one of the other angles and it didn't look like he was intentionally kicking him. Considering the injury I wonder if the suspension is a moot point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lambdacoug View Post
    My mother was the head of the Science Dept at Blue Springs South (both schools are in the same district). Her rants on how football ruled all decisions made by the district were epic. My dad and I very quickly realized that we could never talk HS football around my mom. When the schools split in 1993 (my senior class was kept together), the football talent rich areas were gerrymandered into the Blue Springs boundaries and the rest when to South, which made South lighter on student population and therefore funds. And this is where I would do my best to extricate myself from the conversation. Little league in the area is pretty much divided into two, those that feed into BSHS and those that feed into BSSHS and there isn't a whole lot of mixing. I'm not keyed into it anymore since I live 40 minutes away, but this is what I've heard.
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    Logan loses to Olympus 23-21. Backup QB with a bunch of INTs. Ouch.
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    Blue Springs up 32 - 0 with a few minutes left in the 2nd quarter.

    This thread has got me all excited to follow my team through the playoffs again. Turns out we are 2012 defending state champs. Kinda embarrassing that I didn't know that.

    Anyway, http://www.bshsfootball.com/.

    Here are some 2013 highlights, #1 looks like a man amongst boys, fast at least. (He's committed to K-State)

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    Ula Tolutaus YPC is not going down anytime soon. He had a 93 yard TD run tonight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
    You don't want to close the borders. Closing borders keeps people out. You want to build a wall to stop people from leaving.
    I want to keep Gary Anderson out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cougjunkie View Post
    I want to keep Gary Anderson out.
    Close the borders to coaches outside the state. Got it.
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    http://www.ksl.com/index.php?sid=275...tion-and-anger

    When his teammate tried to help him up, according to Dr. Marlowe Goble, who has knowledge of Nelson's knee history, Chase had an involuntary reaction to the pain that caused his knee to jerk.

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    My Wildcats recorded their second straight shutout in the playoffs, blanking Blue South South to the tune of 40-0. This week we face off against Lee's Summit for a rematch of the regular season finale battle of the unbeatens. LSHS features a 4 star QB and a few other players that have garnered national attention, and a lot of my oldest daughter's friends. I hope they play well but that my Cats come out on top, again. I think I'll probably go to this game. The game will feature at least 4 players that have committed to K-State, Snyder has been busy in the KC area.
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    Olympus is handing the game to East right now. A pick six on a poorly thrown ball, and now a muffed punt that squirts in to their own endzone and is recovered by East for a touchdown.

    Of course East has also fumbled 4 times, losing 2 of them.

    21-14 East leads just before the half.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cougjunkie View Post
    Olympus is handing the game to East right now. A pick six on a poorly thrown ball, and now a muffed punt that squirts in to their own endzone and is recovered by East for a touchdown.

    Of course East has also fumbled 4 times, losing 2 of them.

    21-14 East leads just before the half.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    I love KSL streaming. I am watching the game (and posting!) while sitting in a meeting.

    I love everything about it but Zippy Zundel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cougjunkie View Post
    Olympus is handing the game to East right now. A pick six on a poorly thrown ball, and now a muffed punt that squirts in to their own endzone and is recovered by East for a touchdown.

    Of course East has also fumbled 4 times, losing 2 of them.

    21-14 East leads just before the half.
    Blown call. Should not have been a touchdown.

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    The big showdown is all set next week in 4A. East vs. Timpview. Both teams won big in the semis.

    I think the matchups might favor Timpview. It seems that East's main strength is their power run game and Timpview's strength is their front seven. Yesterday Timpview held Woods Cross to 97 yards and 7 first downs, much of that coming once the game was out of reach and subs were in the game. Most of the Timpview D-line and linebackers have D-1 offers. But East is also incredibly deep and talented. Should be an amazing game.
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    Really interesting finish in the 3AA semis yesterday. Juan Diego was in the red zone with 90 seconds left and the Pine View coach was worried about running out of clock, so he instructed his defense to let Juan Diego score. On the next play Juan Diego runs 16 yards for a TD and goes up by 8 points. But Pine View has enough time to drive down the entire field and score a TD and 2-pt conversion to force overtime. Then they won in overtime. That is great coaching.

    http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8...mpionship.html
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