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  • Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
    breaking encryption seems like the most legitimate program snowden has leaked.
    There is a difference in breaking encryption and forcing "back doors" to be put in commercial products...

    According to an intelligence budget document leaked by Mr. Snowden, the N.S.A. spends more than $250 million a year on its Sigint Enabling Project, which “actively engages the U.S. and foreign IT industries to covertly influence and/or overtly leverage their commercial products’ designs” to make them “exploitable.” Sigint is the acronym for signals intelligence, the technical term for electronic eavesdropping.


    By this year, the Sigint Enabling Project had found ways inside some of the encryption chips that scramble information for businesses and governments, either by working with chipmakers to insert back doors or by exploiting security flaws, according to the documents. The agency also expected to gain full unencrypted access to an unnamed major Internet phone call and text service; to a Middle Eastern Internet service; and to the communications of three foreign governments.


    In one case, after the government learned that a foreign intelligence target had ordered new computer hardware, the American manufacturer agreed to insert a back door into the product before it was shipped, someone familiar with the request told The Times.


    The 2013 N.S.A. budget request highlights “partnerships with major telecommunications carriers to shape the global network to benefit other collection accesses” — that is, to allow more eavesdropping.

    At Microsoft, as The Guardian has reported, the N.S.A. worked with company officials to get pre-encryption access to Microsoft’s most popular services, including Outlook e-mail, Skype Internet phone calls and chats, and SkyDrive, the company’s cloud storage service.


    Microsoft asserted that it had merely complied with “lawful demands” of the government, and in some cases, the collaboration was clearly coerced. Some companies have been asked to hand the government the encryption keys to all customer communications, according to people familiar with the government’s requests.


    N.S.A. documents show that the agency maintains an internal database of encryption keys for specific commercial products, called a Key Provisioning Service, which can automatically decode many messages. If the necessary key is not in the collection, a request goes to the separate Key Recovery Service, which tries to obtain it.

    [...]

    Simultaneously, the N.S.A. has been deliberately weakening the international encryption standards adopted by developers. One goal in the agency’s 2013 budget request was to “influence policies, standards and specifications for commercial public key technologies,” the most common encryption method.

    Cryptographers have long suspected that the agency planted vulnerabilities in a standard adopted in 2006 by the National Institute of Standards and Technology and later by the International Organization for Standardization, which has 163 countries as members.

    Classified N.S.A. memos appear to confirm that the fatal weakness, discovered by two Microsoft cryptographers in 2007, was engineered by the agency. The N.S.A. wrote the standard and aggressively pushed it on the international group, privately calling the effort “a challenge in finesse.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/06/us...agewanted=all&

    The following statement pretty much sums up the state of things....

    Ladar Levison, the founder of Lavabit, wrote a public letter to his disappointed customers, offering an ominous warning. “Without Congressional action or a strong judicial precedent,” he wrote, “I would strongly recommend against anyone trusting their private data to a company with physical ties to the United States.”
    Of course, who are you going to trust with your private data? The Chinese?
    "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
    "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
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    • Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
      breaking encryption seems like the most legitimate program snowden has leaked.
      As Uncle Ted pointed out extremely well, this goes far beyond run-of-the-mill encryption cracking. That was already an arms race between stronger and stronger encryption keys and bigger and bigger hardware.
      Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats.
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      Any sufficiently complicated platform contains an ad hoc, informally-specified, bug-ridden, slow implementation of half of a functional programming language.
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      • Originally posted by lambdacoug View Post
        As Uncle Ted pointed out extremely well, this goes far beyond run-of-the-mill encryption cracking. That was already an arms race between stronger and stronger encryption keys and bigger and bigger hardware.
        Yes, the NSA should have to break encryption the old fashion way... by brute force. Then there would be a market for (massively parallel) super computers again.
        Last edited by Uncle Ted; 09-06-2013, 09:26 AM.
        "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
        "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
        "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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        • How does the NSA spend its (well, the taxpayer's) money? On a kick*ss "Information Dominance Center"...






          http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...nder-star-trek

          I guess the NSA chief is a trekkie.
          Last edited by Uncle Ted; 01-05-2014, 12:30 PM.
          "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
          "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
          "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
          GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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          • WTH?
            "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
            "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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            • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
              WTH?
              Yeah, I am kicking myself for not taking that job offer.
              "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
              "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
              "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
              GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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              • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                Yeah, I am kicking myself for not taking that job offer.
                Given your google skills, we are not sure you didn't.
                "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                  How does the NSA spend its (well, the taxpayer's) money? On a kiss*ss "Information Dominance Center"...

                  From the article:

                  ...note, too, how "Total Information Awareness" was a major scandal in the Bush years, but "Information Dominance Center" - along with things like "Boundless Informant" - are treated as benign or even noble programs in the age of Obama
                  Just another example of how incredibly partisan people can be.

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                  • Originally posted by SandYFan View Post
                    From the article:



                    Just another example of how incredibly partisan people can be.
                    "Information Dominance Center" is a much better name than anything in the Bush years. Also, did you see that racing seat in the "captain's chair"?
                    "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                    "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                    "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                    • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                      Given your google skills, we are not sure you didn't.
                      "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


                      "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

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                      • How did Snowden get access to all that information? Easy, the documents were stored in a shared location:

                        According to the officials, the documents Snowden leaked — the memoranda, PowerPoint slides, agency reports, court orders and opinions — had all been stored in a file-sharing location on the NSA's intranet site. The documents were put there so NSA analysts and officials could read them online and discuss them.
                        http://www.npr.org/2013/09/18/223523...-by-job-duties

                        And then he copied them to an USB thumb drive:
                        As of June, when Snowden's disclosures became public, some NSA computers were equipped with USB ports where thumb drives could be used. As the NSA's chief technologist and information officer, Anderson is responsible for implementing security reforms to guard against future data leaks. NSA security officers have now limited the options employees have for storing data on their own, thumb drives included.
                        One would think that the NSA would know how to safely encrypt sensitive documents, not leave them laying around in a shared location and disable USB ports on computers connected to the NSA's network. Sometimes I wonder if the people running the NSA have 98% bone in the head.
                        "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                        "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                        "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                        • http://www.eweek.com/blogs/security-...ism-world.html

                          I'm not sure what to think on this. It sounds like a good idea, but it also sounds hopelessly impossible.
                          Last edited by lambdacoug; 09-20-2013, 08:39 AM.
                          Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats.
                          - Howard Aiken

                          Any sufficiently complicated platform contains an ad hoc, informally-specified, bug-ridden, slow implementation of half of a functional programming language.
                          - Variation on Greenspun's Tenth Rule

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                          • Apparently some think this Snowden kid has principles.

                            http://www.bignewsnetwork.com/index....d-for-EU-prize
                            Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats.
                            - Howard Aiken

                            Any sufficiently complicated platform contains an ad hoc, informally-specified, bug-ridden, slow implementation of half of a functional programming language.
                            - Variation on Greenspun's Tenth Rule

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                            • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                              How did Snowden get access to all that information? Easy, the documents were stored in a shared location:


                              http://www.npr.org/2013/09/18/223523...-by-job-duties

                              And then he copied them to an USB thumb drive:


                              One would think that the NSA would know how to safely encrypt sensitive documents, not leave them laying around in a shared location and disable USB ports on computers connected to the NSA's network. Sometimes I wonder if the people running the NSA have 98% bone in the head.
                              The NSA isn't concerned with internal activity. It only cares what the US citizens are doing.
                              "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


                              "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

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                              • Originally posted by lambdacoug View Post
                                http://www.eweek.com/blogs/security-...ism-world.html

                                I'm not sure what to think on this. It sounds like a good idea, but it also sounds hopelessly impossible.
                                Yep, it is hopelessly especially if you run Linux...

                                NSA Backdoor


                                Torvalds was also asked if he had ever been approached by the U.S. government to insert a backdoor into Linux.


                                Torvalds responded "no" while nodding his head "yes," as the audience broke into spontaneous laughter.
                                - See more at: http://www.eweek.com/developer/linus....69gYz4ph.dpuf
                                "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                                "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                                "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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