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    Quote Originally Posted by wuapinmon View Post
    I just skimmed the list of companies that donated to Trumps inauguration. The libs are going to have a lot more companies to boycott, including google and Microsoft.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    I just skimmed the list of companies that donated to Trumps inauguration. The libs are going to have a lot more companies to boycott, including google and Microsoft.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueK View Post
    I would like nothing more but to stop using microsoft products. most of them suck. Unfortunately they've done a great job creating a monopoly, so they don't have to get any better.


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    I don't understand the inner workings of Venezuelan opposition. I've not really seen a commitment to non-violence, so I'm not entirely sure how this hasn't descended into complete civil war yet. Maybe they're so mal-nourished, they can't do it, maybe the Army is so well-equipped, no se atreven, or maybe the leaders have been bought off. I'm just scratching my head at what's happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wuapinmon View Post
    maybe the Army is so well-equipped, no se atrevan
    If I had to guess, this is what I would pick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Public View Post
    If I had to guess, this is what I would pick.
    Damn, Spanish error. Should be atreven.
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    I'm doing a couple Venezolano asylum cases. Part of the opposition, and they are very well-educated people who just can't fight what the gov't is doing to them-- not overt like what Cuba did to the opposition, but acts of coercion, blacklisting, harassment, etc. It's a political party that still has a presence and pockets of power inside the government as legislators, governors, etc and do win battles here and there in little elections in certain parts of the country, but for these people in particular the lifestyle there has just become untenable and impractical to fight the good fight when you have children to feed and care for.
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    How romantic
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    Swearing in fury, the crowd strips the man naked and stomps on his head as he sprawls on the ground.

    "You want things that come easy? Then take this, you bastard."

    In Venezuela, this is what robbers get when they are caught by passers-by.

    It is not just the country's economy and political system that are sick, but society itself, experts say. An epidemic of lynchings is one of the most gruesome symptoms.
    President Nicolas Maduro suggested that a man who was set on fire during a demonstration in May was targeted for being a government supporter. Witnesses said the crowd accused him of thieving.

    Maduro broadcast a chilling video of the 22-year-old man running in flames after being doused in fuel and set alight. The man died in hospital two weeks later.

    In another case, a man was set on fire by a crowd who thought he had committed a robbery, but it turned out he had been trying to help the victim.
    Photos included with the article.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/venezuela...094329281.html

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    http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-w...ongress-powers

    I'm through making prognostications about when this will all collapse. The Venezuelan people seem to have limitless endurance.
    The Venezuelan Constituent Assembly, an extremely powerful group called into existence by President Nicolas Maduro, just granted itself another power — one that was once the exclusive province of the country's elected congress: The 2-week-old assembly packed with Maduro supporters decreed Friday it has the power to pass laws.
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    Dejen que coman empanadas.


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    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ar-s-free-fall

    On his Sunday television show, Maduro announced the nation would create its own “petrocurrency,” backed by reserves in oil, gas, gold and diamonds. It will enable Venezuela “to advance in monetary sovereignty, carry out its financial transactions to overcome the financial blockade,” Maduro said.

    “This will allow us to advance toward new forms of international financing for the country’s social and economic development,” he said.



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    "Yeah, but never trust a Ph.D who has an MBA as well. The PhD symbolizes intelligence and discipline. The MBA symbolizes lust for power." -- Katy Lied

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    Venezuela has arrested six people for being responsible for an assassination attempt using drones flying nearby a Maduro speech on Saturday at a military parade.

    The article comments also on how so many of the military present took off to save themselves:

    "Seeing the military scatter at a presidential ceremony suggests a "lapse in security" and "a pretty high level of dysfunction," David Smilde, a sociologist at Tulane University and senior fellow at the Washington Office on Latin America, told CNN.
    With the exception of his immediate bodyguards, images of the incident raise questions about the government's ability "to keep things together."
    "For the soldiers and whoever was running security, it was a bad day," he said.
    Smilde said that it appears the soldiers are there because they have to be there."There's not deep belief in, or loyalty to, the government," he said. "If something like this happens, they're absolutely going to save themselves first."

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/05/ameri...ezuela-maduro/



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    Maduro has loyalists in important positions instead of competent people, a state of affairs that leads to the undoing of authoritarian governments like the one in Venezuela, Smilde said.
    The government model in Venezuela, Smilde said, is a model that emphasizes loyalty and the concentration of power, rather than competence, education, accountability and transparency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wuapinmon View Post
    What are they saying? Why is it scary?
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    Quote Originally Posted by frank ryan View Post
    What are they saying? Why is it scary?

    The guy is berating butchers, bakers, hell, candlestick makers, et al, and saying that they are cheating the people by charging for their products, and that they are going to shut them down. It's basically communism. He's calling small mom-and-pop type stores, "ladrones" which means thieves.

    Given what's happening, this video is a call to arms for the unintelligent, the opportunists, and the criminal element, to exact revenge, rob, steal, and murder anyone trying to make a living as a merchant.
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    Colombia Struggles to Control Border Overrun by Desperate Venezuelans

    The ramifications are vast for South America, which has seen the population of Venezuelans across nine countries explode from 87,000 in 2015 to more than 1.5 million this year. Migration authorities fear the arrivals will only swell in coming months as policies in Venezuela that many economists call half-baked worsen food shortages and hyperinflation, which is expected to hit 1 million percent.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/colombi...ans-1537444801
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    What a tragedy started by a power hungry despot taking over a formerly prosperous democratic country made even worse by his dumbass successor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueK View Post
    What a tragedy started by a power hungry despot taking over a formerly prosperous democratic country made even worse by his dumbass successor.
    Good thing Putin is helping prop up Maduro. Venezuela used to be the strongest democracy in South America. It's truly a shame.
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    as folks flee the country by the millions, it's good of maduro to donate to indonesia-

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokymountainrain View Post
    as folks flee the country by the millions, it's good of maduro to donate to indonesia-

    https://www.telesurtv.net/english/ne...1003-0023.html
    well, he has fewer Venezuelans to "take care of" now. Beats having to "disappear" them or having them protesting.

    This is what happens when democratically elected leaders are allowed to ignore the constitution of the country and systematically wear down and ultimately break all institutions that would and could push back on their grab for power. It took Chavez and now Maduro years to do it, and would probably take even longer in the US. But the direction is the same. I'd be curious to know what makes Trump anti-Venezuela, since as far as I can tell it's about the only dictator he has come down on and hasn't praised at some point. Maybe it's because he speaks Spanish.
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    Cash required for various commodities. 1000 Bolivar notes.

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    One of the grandest benefits of the enlightenment was the realization that our moral sense must be based on the welfare of living individuals, not on their immortal souls. Honest and passionate folks can strongly disagree regarding spiritual matters, so it's imperative that we not allow such considerations to infringe on the real happiness of real people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowcat View Post
    Cash required for various commodities. 1000 Bolivar notes.
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    I don't get it. Why not just wipe your butt with the cash?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    I don't get it. Why not just wipe your butt with the cash?
    It’s probably that plasticized money. Very stiff and completely non-absorbent.


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    Quote Originally Posted by creekster View Post
    It’s probably that plasticized money. Very stiff and completely non-absorbent.


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    If that toilet paper is anything like what they had when I was in Guatemala, that really shouldn't matter. Money would still work better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie View Post
    If that toilet paper is anything like what they had when I was in Guatemala, that really shouldn't matter. Money would still work better.

    Yeah, the toilet paper was about sixes with well-crumpled Church News pages. If you really spent the time to crumple the pages finely, CN was actually even better than the available TP.
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