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    The church had to do something with the land as development around the ranch was heading toward loss of many acres through eminent domain. Looks like they decided to develop it themselves. Smart move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kccougar View Post
    The church had to do something with the land as development around the ranch was heading toward loss of many acres through eminent domain. Looks like they decided to develop it themselves. Smart move.
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    It's supposed to be the same sex marriage that threatens the church's tax exempt status.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kccougar View Post
    The church had to do something with the land as development around the ranch was heading toward loss of many acres through eminent domain. Looks like they decided to develop it themselves. Smart move.
    How would eminent domain affect the ranch. I would think the state and the people in the area would like a large undeveloped area around Orlando.

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    When we joined PH's family and a couple of others for an Orlando visit two years ago, I was surprised how many (hundreds, and perhaps thousands) of cheap rental housing units were available. A lot of them were owned by Brits. We got a nearly new, well-furnished five-bedroom house for less than $100 a night, if I recall correctly. I'm pleased the Church is doing its part to keep down our rental costs next time my grandkids need to visit Harry Potter World.

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    As if City Creek wasn't enough of a terrific idea, the church has somehow managed to top it by thinking about building a city for half a million people, 0 of which currently have plans to move there. The Chinese have considerable recent experience building vacant cities and that's turned out well for them.
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    Note that Deseret Ranch is not a tax-exempt entity like the church proper. It pays taxes, including property taxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
    As if City Creek wasn't enough of a terrific idea, the church has somehow managed to top it by thinking about building a city for half a million people, 0 of which currently have plans to move there. The Chinese have considerable recent experience building vacant cities and that's turned out well for them.
    Has City Creek been a financial failure?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Has City Creek been a financial failure?
    I am sure it is doing better than Beneficial Life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
    As if City Creek wasn't enough of a terrific idea, the church has somehow managed to top it by thinking about building a city for half a million people, 0 of which currently have plans to move there. The Chinese have considerable recent experience building vacant cities and that's turned out well for them.
    This could be the church's best investment yet... thanks to Al Gore and climate change this could all turn into ocean front property:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sullyute View Post
    I am trying to muster up some righteous indignation, or fiery fervor over this but all I am getting is 'meh'. The kingdom of God shall roll forth... blah, blah, blah.
    Meh for me also. They already own the land. If they think development is a better use of the land, great. It doesn't bother me as much as city creek.

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    I look forward to future battles between the church development near Orlando, and the scientologist seizure of Clearwater, 100 miles away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RC Vikings View Post
    How would eminent domain affect the ranch. I would think the state and the people in the area would like a large undeveloped area around Orlando.
    Should the government seize the property, wouldn't it be nice if they had to compensate the Church for a valuable commercial/residential property rather than a vacant lot/agricultural ground?
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    My cousin worked on the. Church ranch in Florida for some time. Drove from Idaho to Florida. If I was more proactive in Republican Party would not of minded being delegate to Republican Natinal Convention. Went there to discuss Religioin and no politics. Next trip politics no religion. I never did. Haven,t been to Florida since my mission.

    The ranch was in my mission but I never served in the Cocoa area myself. Did some work in Kissimmee, that was as close as I got to ranch. Lake Wales was not too far from Ranch either. If I go back would be to do what I couldn,t do as Elder Vine. Seems like Real Estate would be better deal than all of it in ranching. My mp was rancher from Louisiana and Texas and was not impressed with the church ranch cattle.

    It is not a welfare ranch but ran by the for profit corporation and they pay taxes required by Law. Thugh some welfare may come from them they sell to stores just like any other rancher does. I know of some people that thought the church had competitive edge when they asked missionaries to fix things rather than paying proffesional mechanic, plumber and like.

    The profits from church. Owned businesses pay church operating expenses for some time and provide GA living allowances.

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    I didn't know we all had an apartment building in DFW... I would rather have another mall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    I didn't know we all had an apartment building in DFW... I would rather have another mall.
    Perhaps it was revealed unto the Brethren that with Amazon slowly killing off anchor tenants of the nation's malls, investing in residential real estate is the better play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    I didn't know we all had an apartment building in DFW... I would rather have another mall.
    If that mall was right between waterskiing and golf then, wow talk about being able to do it all in one day!
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    People have been arguing that the church is destroying homes with historical importance. In reality, they're just demolishing a bunch of tiny shit holes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lost Student View Post
    People have been arguing that the church is destroying homes with historical importance. In reality, they're just demolishing a bunch of tiny shit holes.
    In that spot in particular. There are some decent older homes right around the temple that are worth keeping around. I think this is great for that area. I lived 1/8 of a mile down Main St.(toward Stapley) from the temple grounds as a newly wed, and it was the only place I've been (aggressively) solicited by prostitutes, offered drugs, heard gunshots, etc. My old stomping grounds have been demolished and replaced with condos, and I'm okay with it.
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    so only 31 billion now? 11% tithing, baby!
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    The M B-win mentioned in the article and shown in the photographs is an old golfing buddy of mine from the early 80's. We went to HS together in the 70's and I was once engaged to his wife's best friend. We were in the same ward for a few years and we played the pro-am circuit with a fellow ward member who was a PGA Pro. He's a great guy - and we played a ton of golf together.

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