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    Quote Originally Posted by clackamascoug View Post
    What was the policy on men who identified as women and wore the appropriate underwear to manifest their status? Were they individual women teachers, or double men teachers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwight Schr-ute View Post
    Had a primary meeting on Sunday to discuss the new policy regarding two-deep teaching for male and female teachers. Our ward has to cover nine female spots to be in compliance. Pretty funny to sit there and listen to the sisters complain about how hard it is going to be to find substitutes.

    I actually support the change. Hopefully it pushes leaders to update a much more ridiculous policy: a male and female can team teach a primary class only if they’re married or siblings. I can imagine the number of affairs were sparked by a sensuous retelling of the 2000 Stripling Warriors to a group of 7 year olds.


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    Yep. My wife went from Permanent Sub to an actual assignment with another sister. Which means that I get to sit in (and thus avoid EQ) whenever that sister can't make it, and that possibility makes me happy. EQ looks to be a real slogfest these days, particularly since someone has decided that every week we need to sit in a circle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LVAllen View Post
    Yep. My wife went from Permanent Sub to an actual assignment with another sister. Which means that I get to sit in (and thus avoid EQ) whenever that sister can't make it, and that possibility makes me happy. EQ looks to be a real slogfest these days, particularly since someone has decided that every week we need to sit in a circle.
    Going to be brutal for introverts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LVAllen View Post
    Yep. My wife went from Permanent Sub to an actual assignment with another sister. Which means that I get to sit in (and thus avoid EQ) whenever that sister can't make it, and that possibility makes me happy. EQ looks to be a real slogfest these days, particularly since someone has decided that every week we need to sit in a circle.
    I like the sit in a circle thing.
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    Going to be brutal for introverts.
    There's a giant circle of floor to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LVAllen View Post
    EQ looks to be a real slogfest these days, particularly since someone has decided that every week we need to sit in a circle.
    Our EQ has been meeting in the High Council room (like the High Priests used to do before the merger). Some of the HP like to sit at the actual table, most of us are in the chairs lining the walls. All of the seats are cushioned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelado View Post
    Our EQ has been meeting in the High Council room (like the High Priests used to do before the merger). Some of the HP like to sit at the actual table, most of us are in the chairs lining the walls. All of the seats are cushioned.
    Our EQ presidency got the boot, with the exception of the former EQ pres, who was made the first counselor in the new presidency as some kind of lame nod to the old regime. The rest of the presidency was taken over by HPs.
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    Interesting, our ward kept the old EQ president and he choose new councilors - all elders. No HPs in leadership

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    Quote Originally Posted by happyone View Post
    Interesting, our ward kept the old EQ president and he choose new councilors - all elders. No HPs in leadership
    My ward kept the HPGL by making him the EQP. He then called two HP as counselors. I think the secretary is an elder...but I honestly can’t remember for sure. It’s basically been a HP take over both in leadership and teaching...oh and in commenting too
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    Our stake retained the existing EQ presidencies as previously constituted until they can redo each one. So it's all elders in leadership for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    My ward kept the HPGL by making him the EQP. He then called two HP as counselors. I think the secretary is an elder...but I honestly can’t remember for sure. It’s basically been a HP take over both in leadership and teaching...oh and in commenting too
    Yep. Token elder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    Yep. Token elder.

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    Our new EQP was the old scoutmaster (he's been a bishop in another state). His 1C is an early-morning seminary teacher who was previously on the high council. 1C is a good dude, but his wife is an anti-pornography nut. Every lesson, every VT visit, etc. circles around to porn. Her son's Eagle Project was a conference on porn and online predation. I feel bad for 1C because I'm pretty sure his wife's crusade is based on their family's experiences. Either that or he's married to a sociopath. A no-win situation.

    2C was WML and is an elder. Strange guy with strange kids and a strange wife. But he's a workhorse. He'll do anything you ask him to.

    Secretary is probably my best friend in the ward. We've both been in YM since we moved in, so I don't know if he's a HP or Elder.
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    This thread has become very boring and all these posts about presidencies have nothing to do with teaching in church today. Please show some respect to the dearly departed Pheidippides and make this thread both interesting and about teaching in church.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartyFunkhouser View Post
    This thread has become very boring and all these posts about presidencies have nothing to do with teaching in church today. Please show some respect to the dearly departed Pheidippides and make this thread both interesting and about teaching in church.
    Please give an example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartyFunkhouser View Post
    This thread has become very boring and all these posts about presidencies have nothing to do with teaching in church today. Please show some respect to the dearly departed Pheidippides and make this thread both interesting and about teaching in church.
    We're just gathering in small groups and discussing the topic. I'm sure at some point, we'll come up with an statement that somewhat relates to the topic, and we'll have a spokesman for our group deliver it.

    Edit: I was actually scheduled to teach on Sunday, but that was before GC kerfuffle. New EQ Presidency was only installed last week. I went ahead and prepared the lesson on ministering anyway. but EQP asked me - after Sacrament - if I would continue teaching, just not that week. No problem. Same topic, same lesson. I spent a good deal of time staring at the floor while the new EQP and HPs talked about... something. Don't remember what. I think my take on the Glengarry Glen Ross method of ministering would have been more entertaining.
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    Just my .02-- Priesthood went from engaging lesson/conversation to a zzzzzz fest. Which works for me, being an introvert.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartyFunkhouser View Post
    This thread has become very boring and all these posts about presidencies have nothing to do with teaching in church today. Please show some respect to the dearly departed Pheidippides and make this thread both interesting and about teaching in church.
    This thread was started by Nikuman - it was never interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    This thread was started by Nikuman - it was never interesting.
    His WoW lesson was pretty interesting (assuming it was in this thread).
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    I subbed for my old SS class yesterday. There were six girls and one boy (who came in late). I had forgotten that I'd agreed to sub, so I was shooting from the hip. I looked up the Come Follow Me lessons for June, and saw that there was one on participating effectively in Church councils. For whatever reason, I went with that one.

    I did my normal schtick, a little quasi-Socratic questioning to define a council, distinguish it from a meeting, discuss how it's different or similar from "group meetings," etc. Then I asked, "how many of you have participated in Bishop's Youth Council or Stake Youth Council?"

    It came out that a graduating senior had gone to one SYC meeting, and then never went again. Sensing there was more to the story, I asked her, "What went wrong that made you not want to participate?"

    It turns out that she was there when they were planning Mormon prom. The stake leadership stated that they were going to bring shawls to put over the young women who did not have modest dresses. My student said that while she appreciated modesty, she thought it would be embarrassing and shaming to throw a shawl over their bodies. The counselor in the SP present shut her down immediately, and she never went back to SYC.

    So we had a discussion on what the SP'y could have done differently to reinforce the idea of importance of modesty without alienating my student, and how she could have work toward advocating a valid point in a respectful manner that has a higher chance of success.

    And then I said something that may or may not get me in trouble. I told them, "I'm the dad of three girls. Their place in the church is something that I think about fairly frequently. As you guys get older, you're going to have awesome priesthood leaders, and you're going to have a few that will misuse what they deem to be their priesthood authority. If you feel like a priesthood leader is not giving you due regard, I want you to go home and read D&C 121, and think about the attributes of a priesthood holder. And if this priesthood holder fails to meet those attributes, then you can know that he's misusing his priesthood. It doesn't mean the church is wrong or bad, it just means that this guy is making a mistake (like we all do), and that you can continue to follow the righteous desires of your heart."

    The two female students who are about to graduate (including the girls who got blasted at SYC), were both crying. The one boy, the bishop's son, had a look of horror on his face. That's where I think I'll get busted. My bishop is a good dude, but he's not a "people's" bishop.

    Afterward, one of the girls told me that she needed the lesson.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Monstah View Post
    I subbed for my old SS class yesterday. There were six girls and one boy (who came in late). I had forgotten that I'd agreed to sub, so I was shooting from the hip. I looked up the Come Follow Me lessons for June, and saw that there was one on participating effectively in Church councils. For whatever reason, I went with that one.

    I did my normal schtick, a little quasi-Socratic questioning to define a council, distinguish it from a meeting, discuss how it's different or similar from "group meetings," etc. Then I asked, "how many of you have participated in Bishop's Youth Council or Stake Youth Council?"

    It came out that a graduating senior had gone to one SYC meeting, and then never went again. Sensing there was more to the story, I asked her, "What went wrong that made you not want to participate?"

    It turns out that she was there when they were planning Mormon prom. The stake leadership stated that they were going to bring shawls to put over the young women who did not have modest dresses. My student said that while she appreciated modesty, she thought it would be embarrassing and shaming to throw a shawl over their bodies. The counselor in the SP present shut her down immediately, and she never went back to SYC.

    So we had a discussion on what the SP'y could have done differently to reinforce the idea of importance of modesty without alienating my student, and how she could have work toward advocating a valid point in a respectful manner that has a higher chance of success.

    And then I said something that may or may not get me in trouble. I told them, "I'm the dad of three girls. Their place in the church is something that I think about fairly frequently. As you guys get older, you're going to have awesome priesthood leaders, and you're going to have a few that will misuse what they deem to be their priesthood authority. If you feel like a priesthood leader is not giving you due regard, I want you to go home and read D&C 121, and think about the attributes of a priesthood holder. And if this priesthood holder fails to meet those attributes, then you can know that he's misusing his priesthood. It doesn't mean the church is wrong or bad, it just means that this guy is making a mistake (like we all do), and that you can continue to follow the righteous desires of your heart."

    The two female students who are about to graduate (including the girls who got blasted at SYC), were both crying. The one boy, the bishop's son, had a look of horror on his face. That's where I think I'll get busted. My bishop is a good dude, but he's not a "people's" bishop.

    Afterward, one of the girls told me that she needed the lesson.
    That's a better lesson by far than what was preached over the pulpit at my ward last week. The tripe from Heber J. Grant about "do what's wrong when the Church President tell you to, and the Lord will bless you for it." Wonder if that counsel extends to direction given by MTC Presidents.
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