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    Default Scarlet Road: Prostitutes for the Disabled

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    There are some ethical issues at work here. Is this humane, exploitative, or immoral?

    Does everyone have the "right to sexual expression?"
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    As long as the paid lovers don't take advantage, and make the men do unnatural things, I'd be down with it.

    I have a close relative with CP. He's 26, served a mission, and has graduated from college. Nicest kid in the world. Never been on a date, or kissed a girl. I've a better understanding of how he might feel now.

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    Sheesh! No one wants to touch this on facebook or CUF. Apparently someone disabled the comments.
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    I saw this this morning. I actually thought it was kind of touching. In a strange way I think I believe this is authorized by God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wuapinmon View Post
    Sheesh! No one wants to touch this
    Too obvious?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jay santos View Post
    I saw this this morning. I actually thought it was kind of touching. In a strange way I think I believe this is authorized by God.
    Please expound. I see the reasoning and basic need behind the actions of both the giver and the receiver. But I do not see any religious approval in this.
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    The thing I don't like is that they make it sound like the service is providing some kind of sexual connection. That's crap. The service is providing orgasms. If Pfizer came up with an orgasm pill, it would put that company out of business in an hour.

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    There's a film coming out about this subject, no? Stars Helen Hunt and John Hawkes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Non Sequitur View Post
    The thing I don't like is that they make it sound like the service is providing some kind of sexual connection. That's crap. The service is providing orgasms. If Pfizer came up with an orgasm pill, it would put that company out of business in an hour.
    Really? Because people can masturbate (not these people, I guess), but that hasn't put the prostitution industry out of business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    Really? Because people can masturbate (not these people, I guess), but that hasn't put the prostitution industry out of business.
    I got the sense that the company was targeting people who couldn't masturbate for themselves, otherwise it couldn't distinguish itself from a run of the mill escort service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    Really? Because people can masturbate (not these people, I guess), but that hasn't put the prostitution industry out of business.
    I'm reminded of the movie Sleeper and the orb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Non Sequitur View Post
    I got the sense that the company was targeting people who couldn't masturbate for themselves, otherwise it couldn't distinguish itself from a run of the mill escort service.
    Right. I'm just saying that I think for these people, physical intimacy (which probably includes orgasm) is what these people really want. Sure, they'd like an orgasm, but I don't think that the ability to produce one on their own would destroy their desire to be with another person sexually. Just like it doesn't change that desire for able-bodied people who can masturbate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Non Sequitur View Post
    The thing I don't like is that they make it sound like the service is providing some kind of sexual connection. That's crap. The service is providing orgasms. If Pfizer came up with an orgasm pill, it would put that company out of business in an hour.
    Sex is about more than orgasm. Even if it is with a stranger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sullyute View Post
    Please expound. I see the reasoning and basic need behind the actions of both the giver and the receiver. But I do not see any religious approval in this.
    Does God need a religion's approval to be pleased with his children's actions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Non Sequitur View Post
    The thing I don't like is that they make it sound like the service is providing some kind of sexual connection. That's crap. The service is providing orgasms. If Pfizer came up with an orgasm pill, it would put that company out of business in an hour.
    Did you watch the video? The guy said he felt like a real bloke again because he was able to bang a chick. I doubt a pill's going to replicate that feeling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    There's a film coming out about this subject, no? Stars Helen Hunt and John Hawkes.
    Here's the movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jay santos View Post
    Does God need a religion's approval to be pleased with his children's actions?
    I think He'd be pleased if the disabled were able to find a spouse who would love and care for them, which love and care would sometimes manifest itself in the form of sexual intimacy.

    Simply getting some poor chump off probably isn't going to merit much of a divine thumbs up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indy Coug View Post
    Simply getting some poor chump off probably isn't going to merit much of a divine thumbs up.
    Disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikuman View Post
    Sex is about more than orgasm. Even if it is with a stranger.
    If sex were about intimacy, you wouldn't want the woman to go back home 5 minutes after it was over. I get the whole selling intimacy angle, but prostitutes aren't really selling intimacy. They sell the illusion of intimacy. Given the choice of pleasuring myself and having a woman pleasure me in the same way, I'd choose the woman. But afterwards I would regret that I spent $200 for something I could have accomplished myself. Maybe I'm just cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jay santos View Post
    Does God need a religion's approval to be pleased with his children's actions?
    You didn't say that God was pleased with it, you said that God authorized it. God authorized Martin Harris to show the 116 pages to his wife, but he didn't seem too pleased about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Non Sequitur View Post
    If sex were about intimacy, you wouldn't want the woman to go back home 5 minutes after it was over. I get the whole selling intimacy angle, but prostitutes aren't really selling intimacy. They sell the illusion of intimacy. Given the choice of pleasuring myself and having a woman pleasure me in the same way, I'd choose the woman. But afterwards I would regret that I spent $200 for something I could have accomplished myself. Maybe I'm just cheap.
    But you'd choose the woman every time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    But you'd choose the woman every time.
    I admit I would, but I would really miss the $200.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Non Sequitur View Post
    If sex were about intimacy, you wouldn't want the woman to go back home 5 minutes after it was over. I get the whole selling intimacy angle, but prostitutes aren't really selling intimacy. They sell the illusion of intimacy. Given the choice of pleasuring myself and having a woman pleasure me in the same way, I'd choose the woman. But afterwards I would regret that I spent $200 for something I could have accomplished myself. Maybe I'm just cheap.
    This doesn't take into account post-orgasmic change in emotion in males, a well known phenomenon.

    Also, I'm not sure we agree on what intimacy means. Intimacy with a specific person vs intimacy with another person generally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikuman View Post
    This doesn't take into account post-orgasmic change in emotion in males, a well known phenomenon.

    Also, I'm not sure we agree on what intimacy means. Intimacy with a specific person vs intimacy with another person generally.
    I'm talking about intimacy with prostitutes. Sex with prostitutes is like a Jason Statham movie not directed by Guy Ritchie. You think it's going to be great and you can't wait to see it, but when it's done you scratch your head, wondering what you just paid for.

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    Non-Seq, but you have experienced non-prostitute sex. I'm guessing that these men have not. Could that impact an opinion about the quality of the exchange?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sullyute View Post
    You didn't say that God was pleased with it, you said that God authorized it. God authorized Martin Harris to show the 116 pages to his wife, but he didn't seem too pleased about it.
    Does God need a religion to authorize something in order for him to authorize it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wuapinmon View Post
    Non-Seq, but you have experienced non-prostitute sex. I'm guessing that these men have not. Could that impact an opinion about the quality of the exchange?
    I have. And I've experienced a lot of non-prostitute sex without intimacy. When you take intimacy out of the equation, one orgasm is about the same as another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Non Sequitur View Post
    I have. And I've experienced a lot of non-prostitute sex without intimacy. When you take intimacy out of the equation, one orgasm is about the same as another.
    But, you know what they don't know. I think it colors y(our) opinion more than we can ever know. They don't know intimacy, so, orgasm and physical contact with someone else beats anything they've ever known.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jay santos View Post
    Does God need a religion to authorize something in order for him to authorize it?
    That depends on your religion and your God.
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