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Originally posted by Moliere View Post"Yeah, but never trust a Ph.D who has an MBA as well. The PhD symbolizes intelligence and discipline. The MBA symbolizes lust for power." -- Katy Lied
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Columbine survivor introduces bill to expand concealed-carry in schools
Some students are calling for tougher gun-control laws after escaping last week’s horrific massacre in Parkland, Florida, but another school-shooting survivor is going in a different direction.
Colorado House Minority Leader Patrick Neville, who attended Columbine High School at the time of the 1999 mass shooting, has again introduced legislation to remove limitations on concealed carry in K-12 schools.
Under state law, concealed-carry permit holders may bring firearms onto school property, but must keep them locked inside their vehicles.
Mr. Neville, who has introduced the bill annually since he was elected in 2014, said the current law “creates a so-called gun free zone in every K-12 public school.”
“This act would allow every law-abiding citizens who holds a concealed carry permit, issued from their chief law-enforcement officer, the right to carry concealed in order to defend themselves and most importantly our children from the worst-case scenarios,” Mr. Neville said in a statement.
The Republican lawmaker has argued that more of his classmates would have survived the attack if some faculty had been armed. Twelve students and one teacher were killed by two teen gunmen at the high school in Littleton, Colorado.
“As a former Columbine student who was a sophomore during the shootings on April 20, 1999, I will do everything in my power to prevent Colorado families from enduring the hardships my classmates and I faced that day,” Mr. Neville said. “Time and time again we point to the one common theme with mass shootings, they occur in gun-free zones.”
A hearing on the bill, which stands little chance of passage in the Democrat-controlled House, is slated for Tuesday.
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LOL... Given that it's the guns that kill people this has no chance of happening."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Posthttps://www.washingtontimes.com/news...carry-schools/
LOL... Given that it's the guns that kill people this has no chance of happening.τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν
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Why don't we just require licenses for guns, like we do for pharmacists who dispense drugs, and for car owners, and for owners of other potentially dangerous items. Then we can build a national database of ballistics fingerprints--the unique markings left on bullets by barrels. Then we can know who's guns were used at crime scenes, and if a certain gun owner's guns keep winding up on the streets of Chicago, for example, we can prosecute and the person can be open to civil liability.
Then people can own what guns they desire--within reason--responsible gun owners won't be hassled, and we'll actually have laws that are designed to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally unstable and the criminal.We all trust our own unorthodoxies.
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Originally posted by Sleeping in EQ View PostWhy don't we just require licenses for guns, like we do for pharmacists who dispense drugs, and for car owners, and for owners of other potentially dangerous items. Then we can build a national database of ballistics fingerprints--the unique markings left on bullets by barrels. Then we can know who's guns were used at crime scenes, and if a certain gun owner's guns keep winding up on the streets of Chicago, for example, we can prosecute and the person can be open to civil liability.
Then people can own what guns they desire--within reason--responsible gun owners won't be hassled, and we'll actually have laws that are designed to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally unstable and the criminal."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by Sleeping in EQ View PostWhy don't we just require licenses for guns, like we do for pharmacists who dispense drugs, and for car owners, and for owners of other potentially dangerous items. Then we can build a national database of ballistics fingerprints--the unique markings left on bullets by barrels...
The school district next to ours ran a public poll, and 85% approve of allowing teachers who participate in self-defense training and periodic CE carry in their schools. There are a myriad of guidelines with it, including training with local law enforcement, but it might be a deterrent. It may be the only realistic way to bring safety to schools again, as it would effectively multiply available SRO's for shooting events (which would be the only time they would be authorized to draw a weapon.)sigpic
"Outlined against a blue, gray
October sky the Four Horsemen rode again"
Grantland Rice, 1924
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Originally posted by cowboy View PostI think that's a good idea, but I don't know how practical it is. Unlike cars, guns are used in places where law enforcement usually isn't, and there are so many guns in circulation that trying to get them all brought in for ballistics would be unenforceable. Like confiscation, I think we'd only see law-abiding people who are unlikely to commit gun crimes anyway voluntarily participate.
The school district next to ours ran a public poll, and 85% approve of allowing teachers who participate in self-defense training and periodic CE carry in their schools. There are a myriad of guidelines with it, including training with local law enforcement, but it might be a deterrent. It may be the only realistic way to bring safety to schools again, as it would effectively multiply available SRO's for shooting events (which would be the only time they would be authorized to draw a weapon.)
I think just the idea that a teacher may be packing heat is a great deterrent... crazies will most likely stick with just shooting up churches. At least in Texas given guns are not allowed in places like churches."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by Uncle Ted View PostGod bless Wyo.
I think just the idea that a teacher may be packing heat is a great deterrent... crazies will most likely stick with just shooting up churches. At least in Texas given guns are not allowed in places like churches.sigpic
"Outlined against a blue, gray
October sky the Four Horsemen rode again"
Grantland Rice, 1924
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If we get to the point where we are arguing that everyone should be armed in public to be safe, then it is time to rethink the entire premise. Geez."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostIf we get to the point where we are arguing that everyone should be armed in public to be safe, then it is time to rethink the entire premise. Geez.sigpic
"Outlined against a blue, gray
October sky the Four Horsemen rode again"
Grantland Rice, 1924
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Originally posted by cowboy View PostI think that's a good idea, but I don't know how practical it is. Unlike cars, guns are used in places where law enforcement usually isn't, and there are so many guns in circulation that trying to get them all brought in for ballistics would be unenforceable. Like confiscation, I think we'd only see law-abiding people who are unlikely to commit gun crimes anyway voluntarily participate.
I think it's a step in the right direction.We all trust our own unorthodoxies.
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Originally posted by cowboy View PostI think we're a long way from that point. Having a more than one weapon in a school, though, should be a decent deterrent, especially if shooters don't know who is armed and who isn't. As far as carrying in public, I don't think it's necessary for everyone to carry, but the same principle applies - shooters are less likely to kill en masse if there is more than one one firearm in the area."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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You're actually pretty funny when you aren't being a complete a-hole....so basically like 5% of the time. --Art Vandelay
Almost everything you post is snarky, smug, condescending, or just downright mean-spirited. --Jeffrey Lebowski
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