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Originally posted by UtahDan View PostIt's like you hoping I might eventually pay you that $15 for the fantasy league. At some point it is better for you to realize you can't trust me. Or decide that you will just have to take me as I am."They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.
Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
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Originally posted by The_Tick View PostWhat is bad? They believe it to be God's law. Pretty simple from their point of view.That we cannot do, for God’s law is not ours to change. There is no change in the Church’s position of what is morally right
I do think that it is definitely progress in the right directions. baby steps."Friendship is the grand fundamental principle of Mormonism" - Joseph Smith Jr.
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Originally posted by UtahDan View PostI'm going to be seeing Surfah soon, maybe I'll just pay him directly."They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.
Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
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Originally posted by Sullyute View PostI find this slightly humorous as the Church as changed "God's law" multiple times and didn't seem to have a problem with it. From plural marriage, to priesthood ban, to woman giving blessings, to different amounts of tithing, to temple ceremony, to word of wisdom, actions in the bedroom, etc. So to say that they cannot change "God's law" gets a chuckle out of me.
I do think that it is definitely progress in the right directions. baby steps.
The obvious reply is that God changes God's law.
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Moses
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Good for them for finally using the word 'gay' on the website. Although SSA is still heavily used, it looks like Oaks is losing the semantics battle.
Unlike in times past, the Church does not necessarily advise those with same-sex attraction to marry those of the opposite sex.
God has given us commandments that support family and individual happiness. One of these is the Law of Chastity — individuals should have no sexual relations except in marriage, which Latter-day Saints define as between a man and a woman.
We believe that with an eternal perspective, a person’s attraction to the same sex can be addressed and borne as a mortal test. It should not be viewed as a permanent condition. Though some people, including those resisting same-sex attraction, may not have the opportunity to marry a person of the opposite sex in this life, a just God will provide them with ample opportunity to do so in the next.
I can see that some faithful members who are gay might take solace in this teaching, but I can't for the life of me imagine why a gay person would convert with this teaching hanging over their head for the rest of their life.
Originally posted by Indy Coug View PostThe obvious reply is that God changes God's law.
Signed,
Moses"...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
"You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
- SeattleUte
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Originally posted by Indy Coug View PostThe obvious reply is that God changes God's law.
Signed,
Moses"Friendship is the grand fundamental principle of Mormonism" - Joseph Smith Jr.
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Where the Church stands:
The experience of same-sex attraction is a complex reality for many people. The attraction itself is not a sin, but acting on it is. Even though individuals do not choose to have such attractions, they do choose how to respond to them. With love and understanding, the Church reaches out to all God’s children, including our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters.I told him he was a goddamn Nazi Stormtrooper.
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Originally posted by Dwight Schr-ute View PostThis was sort of subtle, but seems to be a big admission for the church. The idea that these issues are strongly biological and not just social will serve the membership well in hopefully enabling them to be more compassionate."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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I am not impressed by the website. Poor design and layout. Content is even worse.That which may be asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence. -C. Hitchens
http://twitter.com/SoonerCoug
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"God's law is not ours to change."
They should have added a disclaimer about how often God likes to change his mind.That which may be asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence. -C. Hitchens
http://twitter.com/SoonerCoug
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