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  • #16
    Originally posted by Surfah View Post
    That picture must be 20 years old.
    Originally posted by The_Douger View Post
    Or thirty.
    I will admit the last 4 years have not been kind to Ms. Clinton, but I have always thought she looked good in that picture. ...
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Sullyute View Post
      I would absolute love to have this avatar for 4 or 8 years...

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Sullyute View Post
        I will admit the last 4 years have not been kind to Ms. Clinton, but I have always thought she looked good in that picture. ...
        I think she does as well.
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        • #19
          If we have four more years like the last four look for the right to get really fired up and put in someone like Rand Paul.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Sullyute View Post
            I will admit the last 4 years have not been kind to Ms. Clinton, but I have always thought she looked good in that picture. ...
            That's because it cuts off her cankles.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
              Yes, Paul Ryan also wouldn't help with the minority vote. Obama even won 73% of the Asian-American vote. The republicans are going to need a Rubio or Jindal that is somewhat a social liberal like Huntsman. Of course, such a candidate most likely wouldn't survive the republican primaries.
              Huntsman would be fine by me if he'd drop the bullshit about carbon taxes, cap and trade, etc.

              For those reasons, I don't think he stands a chance, nor should he.

              I think Rubio would give you the best shot of winning. He's young, charismatic, non-white.

              Ryan would not do a thing for me. After watching the guy in debates, in ads and in the media, he kind of creeps me out. He'd lose in a landslide. A lot of right leaning folks would stay home.

              I think the Bush's are poisoned fruit.

              Jindal? Would he really win the "Asian" vote? How many Chinese or Japanese Americans would feel "kinship" with the guy? Again, I think he'd be better than Ryan, but not as good as Rubio.

              I think the Republican party needs to find the most qualified, non-white, socially liberal yet fiscally conservative candidate they can. Someone young and charismatic.

              The Republican party needs to shift the paradigm. It might lose some evangelicals, but I firmly believe that for the cause of fiscal conservatism and a hope for the future of the economy, they have to do it. Somehow they need to get to a point where the Republican/right mantra: is total freedom. Economic freedom. Social freedom. Individual freedom.

              Gay marriage? When did "we" decide "we" needed the government to recognize ANY of our marriages? I couldn't care less if the government recognizes my marriage. I only care if my spouse and if you so believe, God and church recognize it. Why is it necessary for the state to be involved with ANYBODY's marriage. Maybe, rather than arguing what the government recognizes as marriage, we ought to be arguing about WHY it even needs to be part and parcel of our interpersonal relationships. Thoughts?

              That, IMO, ought to be the Republican line on social issues. Including abortion and mary jane.

              That line on social issues along with a strong message of economic freedom OUGHT to be the direction of the Republican party, IMO.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Sullyute View Post
                I would absolute love to have this avatar for 4 or 8 years...

                She looks embalmed.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by wally View Post
                  She looks embalmed.
                  Actually, she doesn't. Nobody is that good at embalming.

                  That's just an example of lipstick on a pig.
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                  • #24
                    If Hillary wins in 2016, it will mean 8 more years of partying and dancing!

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
                      Actually, she doesn't. Nobody is that good at embalming.

                      That's just an example of lipstick on a pig.
                      I just got schooled.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post
                        If we have four more years like the last four look for the right to get really fired up and put in someone like Rand Paul.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Portland Ute View Post
                          I think Rubio would give you the best shot of winning. He's young, charismatic, non-white.

                          Ryan would not do a thing for me. After watching the guy in debates, in ads and in the media, he kind of creeps me out. He'd lose in a landslide. A lot of right leaning folks would stay home.
                          I think Rubio is the best answer right now.

                          Ryan is into details and math. He doesn't connect with people. He's not charismatic. I think it's obvious that the actuarial-type are never going to win the presidency, at least not in this day and age.

                          Rubio seems to be more rational, at least with immigration. He is young and inexperienced, but he has time to step it up and he has more experience than Obama did when he ran. He needs to distance himself from the TEA party first, but I think he's doing just that.

                          Also Rubio married a cheerleader.....and who wouldn't vote for him just to see his wife as first lady?
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                          • #28
                            Please, no one with the last name of Bush. I don't care if he's good or not. That name won't fly anymore.
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                            • #29
                              I'm still bothered that Jeb Bush won't get a shot as a result of his brother's presidency. I thought that 2000-20008 should have been Jeb, not W. And I think Jeb could do a great job. but he has been out of the game so long, anyway.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                                I'm still bothered that Jeb Bush won't get a shot as a result of his brother's presidency. I thought that 2000-20008 should have been Jeb, not W. And I think Jeb could do a great job. but he has been out of the game so long, anyway.
                                I think W has ruined any chance for anyone from the Bush family to ever have a shot at public office on a national level, be it the White House, the Senate or the House. And I agree that Jeb would have done a really good job had he been POTUS.
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