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Last edited by BlueK; 03-22-2019, 07:15 AM.
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Originally posted by Bo Diddley View PostBut this undercuts the correlation of a bad president being elected while losing the popular vote. And Bush was a good president btw.
But he was still the best of George Washington and Abraham Lincoln combined compared to Trump.Last edited by BlueK; 03-22-2019, 07:09 AM.
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Originally posted by BlueK View PostI don't think Bush was very good -- slightly better than Obama. The Patriot Act was a pretty egregious attack on civil liberties, as was his warrantless domestic spying which illegally went beyond even the Patriot Act. Still, I acknowledge he thought he was doing a good thing.
But he was still the best of George Washington and Abraham Lincoln combined compared to Trump."Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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Originally posted by Moliere View PostYeah, I’m not sure where the Bush love comes from on this board. He wasn’t a good president even ignoring the Iraq war. The Patriot Act and the Great Recession were pretty bad. But I guess in contrast to Trump, he is good.
He took office in time for some pretty tough challenges to hit our great country, and he was a leader. He was one of the few presidents we've had in my lifetime that actually led. He was a good man who did what he believed was the right thing.
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Originally posted by Bo Diddley View PostHe took office in time for some pretty tough challenges to hit our great country, and he was a leader. He was one of the few presidents we've had in my lifetime that actually led. He was a good man who did what he believed was the right thing.
BD on rapists... hey, other than raping that one woman (who deserved it by the way), a really good guy.
BD on murderers... hey, other than that killing rampage (brown people had it coming), a nice fella who is just misunderstood.
BD on Bush... hey, other than being responsible for hundreds of thousand of civilians being killed and several thousand US soldiers dying by exaggerating a threat that never existed (and most people, including UN inspectors said didn't exist), Bush was a great leader.You're actually pretty funny when you aren't being a complete a-hole....so basically like 5% of the time. --Art Vandelay
Almost everything you post is snarky, smug, condescending, or just downright mean-spirited. --Jeffrey Lebowski
Anyone can make war, but only the most courageous can make peace. --President Donald J. Trump
You furnish the pictures, and I’ll furnish the war. --William Randolph Hearst
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Originally posted by Walter Sobchak View PostGreat logic.
BD on rapists... hey, other than raping that one woman (who deserved it by the way), a really good guy.
BD on murderers... hey, other than that killing rampage (brown people had it coming), a nice fella who is just misunderstood.
BD on Bush... hey, other than being responsible for hundreds of thousand of civilians being killed and several thousand US soldiers dying by exaggerating a threat that never existed (and most people, including UN inspectors said didn't exist), Bush was a great leader.
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Originally posted by Bo Diddley View PostI can see how much you hate him, but I'm at a loss to connect what I said to any of that.You're actually pretty funny when you aren't being a complete a-hole....so basically like 5% of the time. --Art Vandelay
Almost everything you post is snarky, smug, condescending, or just downright mean-spirited. --Jeffrey Lebowski
Anyone can make war, but only the most courageous can make peace. --President Donald J. Trump
You furnish the pictures, and I’ll furnish the war. --William Randolph Hearst
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Originally posted by Walter Sobchak View PostWhich is probably why you think Bush is a "good President". You can't make obvious connections about his dishonesty.
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Originally posted by Walter Sobchak View PostGreat logic.
BD on rapists... hey, other than raping that one woman (who deserved it by the way), a really good guy.
BD on murderers... hey, other than that killing rampage (brown people had it coming), a nice fella who is just misunderstood.
BD on Bush... hey, other than being responsible for hundreds of thousand of civilians being killed and several thousand US soldiers dying by exaggerating a threat that never existed (and most people, including UN inspectors said didn't exist), Bush was a great leader."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
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Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostHa. Most predictable response ever.You're actually pretty funny when you aren't being a complete a-hole....so basically like 5% of the time. --Art Vandelay
Almost everything you post is snarky, smug, condescending, or just downright mean-spirited. --Jeffrey Lebowski
Anyone can make war, but only the most courageous can make peace. --President Donald J. Trump
You furnish the pictures, and I’ll furnish the war. --William Randolph Hearst
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Originally posted by Walter Sobchak View PostThe Iraq war wasn’t an innocent mistake. It was undertaken by an administration stocked with slick serial liars and manipulators. America invaded Iraq because the White House wanted a war (and the MSM wanted a war too, but that is a topic for another conversation). The justifications for the invasion were nothing but falsified pretexts. And President Bush was at the top of that. Anyone that believes President Bush was a "good president" is a dunce.
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Originally posted by Bo Diddley View PostWhere do you stand on the JKF Assassination, the Lunar Landing, and the 9/11 Terrorist Attacks?
"If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
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GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Great article in the New York Times about why the Electoral College is not good for our country:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/13/o...ular-vote.html
I've felt that the Electoral College makes my vote meaningless for a long time. When I lived in California, it didn't matter who I voted for because the state would go to the Democrat. Now that I live in Idaho, it doesn't matter who I vote for because the state will go to the Republican. And the swing states have much more power in the general election.
Anyway, the article explains it much better than I can.
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Originally posted by Scott R Nelson View PostGreat article in the New York Times about why the Electoral College is not good for our country:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/13/o...ular-vote.html
I've felt that the Electoral College makes my vote meaningless for a long time. When I lived in California, it didn't matter who I voted for because the state would go to the Democrat. Now that I live in Idaho, it doesn't matter who I vote for because the state will go to the Republican. And the swing states have much more power in the general election.
Anyway, the article explains it much better than I can.
I like the electoral college and its premise is as valid today as it was when it was instituted. It was instituted to balance large states power vs. little states. Today there still is a huge urban/rural divide where the interests of rural America will be squashed if we go to a popular vote.
It will be tyranny of the majority.
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