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    Classic.

    LDS Mission Call trade?
    Looking to find someone with a foreign LDS mission call that does not want to go foreign. I have a stateside one to Chicago, Spanish speaking that I will trade you. If we are both willing to trade I bet there is a way to talk to the mission presidents, or someone, and get our calls traded. Please, I need this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwight Schr-ute View Post
    Chicago Spanish speaking was my mission.
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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    Chicago Spanish speaking was my mission.
    LOL. Couldn't find a real missionary to swap with?

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    LOL. Couldn't find a real missionary to swap with?
    I posted it on the ride-swap bulletin board in the Wilk! Craigslist didn't exist back then...
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    Post deleted by author, I guess mom or dad saw it.
    Probably already found his (or her) match.
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    At a recent high council meeting--of which I was not a part but I have excellent sources--it was reported that there has been a big drop in the number of missionaries. When asked if this is the result of the exceptionally large slug of female missionaries returning home, the answer was no. The cause is a very substantial number of missionaries coming home early. Apparently, the dropout rate is now around 35%; in the San Jose Mission it's currently running around 30%. This surprises me. One reason given is high stress levels--a question has been added to the stake president interview sheet that inquires about the candidate's ability to deal with pressure, stress, deadlines.

    My personal theory is that the biggest cause is "screen separation." Going from near constant contact with one's friends (including many hundreds on FB) to being 24/7 with only one person with whom one is probably poorly matched has to be very difficult.

    Are those dropout rates accurate?

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    Those rates seem high compared to my anecdotal experience but it's definitely higher than before the age change.

    I don't disagree with the screen separation theory but I think the bigger issue is kids not living away from home for any sort of extended period before they leave on a mission. I suffered from home sickness for my first couple months and it would have been much worse had I not spent a semester away at school.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
    At a recent high council meeting--of which I was not a part but I have excellent sources--it was reported that there has been a big drop in the number of missionaries. When asked if this is the result of the exceptionally large slug of female missionaries returning home, the answer was no. The cause is a very substantial number of missionaries coming home early. Apparently, the dropout rate is now around 35%; in the San Jose Mission it's currently running around 30%. This surprises me. One reason given is high stress levels--a question has been added to the stake president interview sheet that inquires about the candidate's ability to deal with pressure, stress, deadlines.

    My personal theory is that the biggest cause is "screen separation." Going from near constant contact with one's friends (including many hundreds on FB) to being 24/7 with only one person with whom one is probably poorly matched has to be very difficult.

    Are those dropout rates accurate?
    Wow, 35%. There was a blog posting about this some time ago but it didn't really say what the percentage was:
    http://www.cougarstadium.com/showthr...=1#post1121368

    It seems all the missionaries here now have iPads. Of course, I don't think they are on Facebook and other social media all the time. It seems they could easily abuse whatever mission rules about staying in contact with friends if they wanted to, however.

    I have to wonder, like Moli, if not spending any time away from home before missions contributes to missionaries coming home early. Maybe the maturity level of the younger missionaries is also a factor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    Those rates seem high compared to my anecdotal experience but it's definitely higher than before the age change.

    I don't disagree with the screen separation theory but I think the bigger issue is kids not living away from home for any sort of extended period before they leave on a mission. I suffered from home sickness for my first couple months and it would have been much worse had I not spent a semester away at school.
    This is the main reason I want my son to go to at least one semester of college before he goes on a mission. He is only 15 now, but my wife and I have already told him that would be best. Plus think of ratio of 18 year old girls to boys at BYU. Maybe he will talk to one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
    At a recent high council meeting--of which I was not a part but I have excellent sources--it was reported that there has been a big drop in the number of missionaries. When asked if this is the result of the exceptionally large slug of female missionaries returning home, the answer was no. The cause is a very substantial number of missionaries coming home early. Apparently, the dropout rate is now around 35%; in the San Jose Mission it's currently running around 30%. This surprises me. One reason given is high stress levels--a question has been added to the stake president interview sheet that inquires about the candidate's ability to deal with pressure, stress, deadlines.

    My personal theory is that the biggest cause is "screen separation." Going from near constant contact with one's friends (including many hundreds on FB) to being 24/7 with only one person with whom one is probably poorly matched has to be very difficult.

    Are those dropout rates accurate?
    I have a hard time believing it is that high.

    There are already substantial filters in place to screen potential problems with stress, anxiety, etc. during the application process. Hopefully, the bishops are learning to be more careful.

    Our stake (Heritage Halls - Freshman) produces a huge number of missionaries. Only 3% of our missionaries return early. Part of that is because they are truly exceptional, high-achieving kids. But I think it also has to do with the fact that they have all put in at least one semester at BYU before leaving (most attend a full year). I am 100% in favor of kids attending a freshman year before serving. It makes a huge difference in terms of maturity and learning how to live away from mom and dad.
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    I also can't believe the percentage would be that high. I only have missionaries from my Stake to measure, but we've had one kid come home early in the past 5 years. Observing the kids in our Stake that attend our Mission Prep classes each year I've concluded that they are in general far better prepared to serve than I was at that age, or even a year older.
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    Our ward sends out about 10 missionaries per year, maybe a little more. I think we have 23 out right now, and we've been in the high 20's recently. Over the last five years, I know of three that came home early. 30% is way too high. I would be surprised if it was over 10%. When my kids that have served or are serving now talk occasionally about someone going home early, it's in the context that it's a rare event. Not something that happens to 1 out of 3 or 5 kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
    At a recent high council meeting--of which I was not a part but I have excellent sources--it was reported that there has been a big drop in the number of missionaries. When asked if this is the result of the exceptionally large slug of female missionaries returning home, the answer was no. The cause is a very substantial number of missionaries coming home early. Apparently, the dropout rate is now around 35%; in the San Jose Mission it's currently running around 30%. This surprises me. One reason given is high stress levels--a question has been added to the stake president interview sheet that inquires about the candidate's ability to deal with pressure, stress, deadlines.

    My personal theory is that the biggest cause is "screen separation." Going from near constant contact with one's friends (including many hundreds on FB) to being 24/7 with only one person with whom one is probably poorly matched has to be very difficult.

    Are those dropout rates accurate?
    My father-in-law just returned from being an Area Medical Adviser (he was responsible for overseeing the medical needs of some 2800 missionaries) and while he was surprised at how many missionaries were going home, I don't believe the number was anywhere close to 35%. Granted, what he saw didn't account for missionaries that went home from the MTC.

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    To all respondents, I agree 30-35% returnees sounds way too high, and that 10% seems about right, but the 30% number came from our local mission president, although I got that secondhand. Too bad they don't include that number, whatever it is, as part of the April Conference audit report delivered from the pulpit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    I have a hard time believing it is that high.

    There are already substantial filters in place to screen potential problems with stress, anxiety, etc. during the application process. Hopefully, the bishops are learning to be more careful.

    Our stake (Heritage Halls - Freshman) produces a huge number of missionaries. Only 3% of our missionaries return early. Part of that is because they are truly exceptional, high-achieving kids. But I think it also has to do with the fact that they have all put in at least one semester at BYU before leaving (most attend a full year). I am 100% in favor of kids attending a freshman year before serving. It makes a huge difference in terms of maturity and learning how to live away from mom and dad.
    Yeah, I don't think this is a very good sample.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
    To all respondents, I agree 30-35% returnees sounds way too high, and that 10% seems about right, but the 30% number came from our local mission president, although I got that secondhand. Too bad they don't include that number, whatever it is, as part of the April Conference audit report delivered from the pulpit...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
    To all respondents, I agree 30-35% returnees sounds way too high, and that 10% seems about right, but the 30% number came from our local mission president, although I got that secondhand. Too bad they don't include that number, whatever it is, as part of the April Conference audit report delivered from the pulpit...
    Maybe y'all are just really hard on the missionaries that are sent your way.

    My nephew served in the San Jose mission and was just recently honorably discharged. I recall him saying he had two or three of his companions that left for home early. He didn't say why. I'll try to return and report.
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    Soon-to-be 19 year-old daughter got her mission call in the mail today. Opening tonight...

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    A girl in my ward got her call last week to Brussels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
    Soon-to-be 19 year-old daughter got her mission call in the mail today. Opening tonight...
    香港! 香港! 香港!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clark Addison View Post
    香港! 香港! 香港!
    And Clark wins the Nostradamus award: Tawain, Taipei mission. Taipei isn't Hong Kong but it's still Chinese speaking (although Mandarin not Cantonese).

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
    And Clark wins the Nostradamus award: Tawain, Taipei mission.
    Yes. That is exactly what I said.

    And congrats. That's great. She will love it there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
    And Clark wins the Nostradamus award: Tawain, Taipei mission. Taipei isn't Hong Kong but it's still Chinese speaking (although Mandarin not Cantonese).
    Awesome, that sounds like it would be a rad mission.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
    And Clark wins the Nostradamus award: Tawain, Taipei mission. Taipei isn't Hong Kong but it's still Chinese speaking (although Mandarin not Cantonese).
    Congrats. My alma mater. She will love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    Congrats. My alma mater. She will love it.

    Mandarin upside: no conjugation. Mandarin downside: just about everything else.
    Wtih no conjugation, how do they differentiate between tenses?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelado View Post
    Wtih no conjugation, how do they differentiate between tenses?
    verb prefixes (e.g. 要, 在, etc), verb suffixes (過, et al), and "end-of-sentence-construction" particles (了, 呢, ...)

    Super simple!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    verb prefixes (e.g. 要, 在, etc), verb suffixes (過, et al), and "end-of-sentence-construction" particles (了, 呢, ...)

    Super simple!
    Fun.
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