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Originally posted by Paperback Writer View PostI'm a lot more cautious about the upside of Taysom Hill. Still learning as a thrower??? Hill is 23 and will be a junior in 2014. IMO, any improvements in Hill's passing will be incremental rather than substantial.
I've seen these predictions before with running/dual threat QBs. There's so much more room for improvement because running QBs often have problems with accuracy and reading defenses. And too often observers think that once a running QB starts throwing more accurately and to the open receiver, then the sky is the limit because the QB is such a threat running the ball. But the reality is that most running QBs improve in small increments, continue to have accuracy issues, and throw into coverage or miss open receivers.
Taysom Hill could still end up being one of BYU's best QBs. But it will be more a result of Anae adapting BYU's offense around Hill's limitations and strengths as a QB, not because Hill develops into Steve Young. And Steve Young is a good measuring stick because I think that's what's expected when the Sporting News writer mentions: "...could develop into the game's best player". I think it more likely that Hill improves incremently, which still makes him a very good player. I see Taysom Hill more similar to Eric Crouch at Nebraska who continued to struggle with accuracy and reading defenses but still turned out to be an excellent college QB and in the minds of many Heisman voters - the game's best player.I'm like LeBron James.
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Originally posted by I.J. Reilly View PostPBW is still being burned by Taylor Martinez.Originally posted by USUC View Postpsh... Taylor Martinez is clouding your judgement. Hill will rise up!Originally posted by MarkGrace View Postha. That was my reaction as well.
Originally posted by smokymountainrain View PostThat was a long way of saying Hill's arms are too muscular to ever be a good passer.Last edited by Paperback Writer; 02-21-2014, 10:56 AM.“Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory.”
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I'm not buying that Hill won't improve significantly - I am not aware of a more dramatic improvement arc in a QB from the beginning of one season to the end (while I know the perception is heightened by some wild weather events, a plague of dropped passes, and by learning a new offense).
By the end of 2013 Hill remained inconsistent, but played at a high level in long stretches and made a number of throws that I never (sorry PBW) saw Taylor Martinez make. His back shoulder game winner against Houston was an NFL throw (and an NFL read).
With one year in the system and better line play I think we will see the Hill's inconsistency level out.
Also - John Beck made the biggest leap in his performance between his Junior and Senior seasons, so it certainly isn't unprecedented for older RM QBs to make big leaps forward as upperclassmen.Ute-ī sunt fīmī differtī
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Originally posted by oxcoug View PostI'm not buying that Hill won't improve significantly - I am not aware of a more dramatic improvement arc in a QB from the beginning of one season to the end (while I know the perception is heightened by some wild weather events, a plague of dropped passes, and by learning a new offense).
By the end of 2013 Hill remained inconsistent, but played at a high level in long stretches and made a number of throws that I never (sorry PBW) saw Taylor Martinez make. His back shoulder game winner against Houston was an NFL throw (and an NFL read).
With one year in the system and better line play I think we will see the Hill's inconsistency level out.
Also - John Beck made the biggest leap in his performance between his Junior and Senior seasons, so it certainly isn't unprecedented for older RM QBs to make big leaps forward as upperclassmen.τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν
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Originally posted by MarkGrace View PostWill this be our last season with the noblest son? I think there's a good chance it is."I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
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Originally posted by Pelado View PostI think he'll return for his senior season, in part because I don't think he'll make as big a leap in his passing game this season to be considered a first or second rounder."Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault
"Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors
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Originally posted by Pelado View PostI think he'll return for his senior season, in part because I don't think he'll make as big a leap in his passing game this season to be considered a first or second rounder.So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.
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