Security is our new state religion. Bow down and submit!

[taekwondave]

I've been listening on the way to work to this podcast: Dan Carlin's Common Sense and he agrees with you. Although he just calls it straight up corruption.

I'm not sure I agree, but it was definitely interesting to here him argue that Watergate couldn't happen today due to the new security laws.

Bingo. The whistleblowers of watergate would be tried for treason today. I bet Julian Assange wishes he was from the 60's.

[myboynoah]

Bingo. The whistleblowers of watergate would be tried for treason today. I bet Julian Assange wishes he was from the 60's.

Oh please, let's at least not be dumb about this.

[DU Ute]

Oh please, let's at least not be dumb about this.

Come on. People are convicted of treason all the time.

[wuapinmon]

Come on. People are convicted of treason all the time.

Luckily for us the Fox News/MSNBC courts' authority is not recognized by the government.

[myboynoah]

Come on. People are convicted of treason all the time.

And shot too. And drawn and quartered. And their heads put on spikes in the town square and their headless bodies dragged through the streets.

Isn't Assange actually accused of rape?

[edward777]

And shot too. And drawn and quartered. And their heads put on spikes in the town square and their headless bodies dragged through the streets.

Isn't Assange actually accused of rape?

Please look at what he is actually accused of. The British press has been very good at showing what really took place.

Portly, pin-striped lawyer Mark Stephens says his client, WikiLeaks boss Julian Assange, is accused of ‘sex by surprise’ in Sweden.

‘Whatever “sex by surprise” is, it’s only an offence in Sweden,’ says Stephens.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...#ixzz20JCFJ2km

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...-surprise.html

Also:

True, one of Assange's accusers sounds tailor-made for those who think Assange is being set up in Sweden by dark CIA-backed operatives who want him smeared or silenced for his document dumping with WikiLeaks. She's a 31-year-old blond academic and member of the Social Democratic Party who's known for her radical feminist views, once wrote a treatise on how to take revenge against men and was once thrown out of Cuba for subversive activities.

But others say Assange, who denies any wrongdoing and says the sex was consensual, may have just run afoul of Sweden's unusual rape laws, which are considered pro-feminist because of the consideration given issues of consent when it comes to sexual activity -- including even the issue of whether a condom was used.

In fact, the current prosecutor, Marianne Ny, who re-opened the case against Assange, has been active in the proposed reforms of Swedish rape laws that would, if passed, involve an investigation of whether an imbalance in power between two people could void one person's insistence that the sex was consensual.

http://www.aolnews.com/2010/12/02/se...riminal-probe/

[myboynoah]

Weighing in on church finances, i see.

ER should take all that credit.

[myboynoah]

Please look at what he is actually accused of. The British press has been very good at showing what really took place.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...-surprise.html

Also:



http://www.aolnews.com/2010/12/02/se...riminal-probe/

So I was correct, he's accused of rape, not treason.

[TripletDaddy]

Isn't Assange actually accused of rape?

Discrediting people based on charges. Now myboynoah is taking on prophets of the restoration! Where did this all this anti-church hostility come from?

[ERCougar]

ER should take all that credit.

Thanks! I did catch the reference, but I'm a little confused. On the one hand, you seem to be siding with our latest up-all-night conspiracy theorist. On the other, you seem to be implying that the church is covering up the equivalent of assassination attempts.

Which direction were you going?

[myboynoah]

Discrediting people based on charges. Now myboynoah is taking on prophets of the restoration! Where did this all this anti-church hostility come from?

I was noting that Assange is accused of rape, not treason.

[myboynoah]

Thanks! I did catch the reference, but I'm a little confused. On the one hand, you seem to be siding with our latest up-all-night conspiracy theorist. On the other, you seem to be implying that the church is covering up the equivalent of assassination attempts.

Which direction were you going?

Those sound like they should both be on the same hand.

[ERCougar]

Those sound like they should both be on the same hand.

I don't think so, but if you do, that's a pretty harsh position to take.

Not even the Water Cooler is safe for us faithful any more!

[edward777]

Thanks! I did catch the reference, but I'm a little confused. On the one hand, you seem to be siding with our latest up-all-night conspiracy theorist. On the other, you seem to be implying that the church is covering up the equivalent of assassination attempts.

Which direction were you going?

What constitutes a "conspiracy theorist?" I remember a few years back when I first heard about the CIA using, and promoting LSD in order to experiment on its application as a mind control agent. I thought that was crazy until I found out it was true. So by the time I heard about the US government injecting unsuspecting Latin Americans with sexually transmitted diseases in order to see what it did to them I was really not that surprised. One wonders what other things our government has done all in the name of national security.

[ERCougar]

What constitutes a "conspiracy theorist?" I remember a few years back when I first heard about the CIA using, and promoting LSD in order to experiment on its application as a mind control agent. I thought that was crazy until I found out it was true. So by the time I heard about the US government injecting unsuspecting Latin Americans with sexually transmitted diseases in order to see what it did to them I was really not that surprised. One wonders what other things our government has done all in the name of national security.

I think you answered your own question. In the next sentence.