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Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostThat was my first reaction. But if you could create a large mass of premium real estate in the middle of one of the fast growing places in the nation? Might be able to pull it off.Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss
There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock
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Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostThat was my first reaction. But if you could create a large mass of premium real estate in the middle of one of the fast growing places in the nation? Might be able to pull it off."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostThis is a private project. If you were a true libertarian you would be all for it.
"If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostWhere did you get that number?
I have looked at the details in a while, but some areas will be dredged deeper than others. It involves causeways to deal with winds and currents. The dredged material will be used to build up the land. Also, the state already has a dredging project that is launching soon. All the harbors and surrounding areas will be dredged first.
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Originally posted by Shaka View PostI pulled it right out of my arse. The boating experience would . be much better if the thing were 12-20' deep. Especially wake surfing which is about all anyone wants to do anymore."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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Originally posted by clackamascoug View PostI'm no Phd ground water management... but in a nutshell... the deeper the water of a fresh water lake, the healthier it is... Utah Lake is so filled with silt, that it's pristine nature has diminished over time. If you tripled the depth of the lake with dredging, and put an Indian Casino in the middle of it (to pay for it)... stock the lake with Native German Browns... the lake would return to a pristine state for a couple of centuries.
I realize that dredging the lake to 20 feet deep is a budgetary pipe dream, but if Utah Lake was a "pristine" freshwater lake there would literally be no better place to live... given that the pollution problem is solved.
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Originally posted by USUC View PostI assume the buildup of silt has been occurring for the past 10,000 years, but has this been compounded by human activity over the past 150 years? According to some article I read years ago, cutthroat trout was quite common in the lake when the Mormon settlers arrived. But I can't imagine trout thriving in the warm murky water. So it must have been deeper 150 years ago.
I realize that dredging the lake to 20 feet deep is a budgetary pipe dream, but if Utah Lake was a "pristine" freshwater lake there would literally be no better place to live... given that the pollution problem is solved."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostI don't think the depth has changed much. You get a lot of phosphates and nitrates that run into the lake and cause algae. Also, invasive species of fish.PLesa excuse the tpyos.
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Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostI don't think the depth has changed much. You get a lot of phosphates and nitrates that run into the lake and cause algae. Also, invasive species of fish."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by USUC View PostI assume the buildup of silt has been occurring for the past 10,000 years, but has this been compounded by human activity over the past 150 years? According to some article I read years ago, cutthroat trout was quite common in the lake when the Mormon settlers arrived. But I can't imagine trout thriving in the warm murky water. So it must have been deeper 150 years ago.
I realize that dredging the lake to 20 feet deep is a budgetary pipe dream, but if Utah Lake was a "pristine" freshwater lake there would literally be no better place to live... given that the pollution problem is solved.Originally posted by Uncle Ted View PostI am not sure who thought it was a good idea to throw in some carp (back in 1800's) but that is like 90% of the fish now in that lake. Not to mention the city of Provo was still dumping raw sewage into that lake late into the 60's. It is pretty messed up, Dude.
So that's the story - it isn't necessarily about the depth of the water as far as why it's murky now. It has more to do with the carp. And - I suppose - there could be added elements from pollution over that time as well. But, from what they were describing to me, the biggest "pollutant" was the pioneers who put those carp in there to begin with.
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Damnit, this thread has sent me down too many Utah Lake rabbit holes this morning while I should be working. As Uncle Ted noted, the carp are by far the biggest problem to the health of the lake. As of last year, this was the status of the almost decade old plan to remove 5 million pounds of carp a year. http://www.heraldextra.com/news/loca...23385f3af.html
Carp are 90% of the biomass of the lake? That is absolutely insane. Carp are an issue all over the world, hasn't anyone come up with some sort of genetically engineered carp to release and seal their impending doom?
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