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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaka View Post
    My solution money be damned:

    Divert the Provo River for a season and drain the lake. We can call it Operation Carp Be Gone.

    No need to dredge just bulldoze the crap out of the bottom of the lake. Use some of the dirt to build the island community.

    Demolish Eagle Mountain City Center. Dump rest of dirt on demolished remains and allow nature to take over. Do not allow Eagle Mountain to rebuild City Center and relocate their city offices close to The Ranches. Better yet let Saratoga Springs annex The Ranches and surrounding communities and un-incoprporate Eagle Mountain City. We can call this: Operation Relocate Goatnapper's Vacation Home to a Better City.

    Divert Provo River back into Utah Lake and restock with awesome fish with names ending in trout.

    Build Shaka's new home complete with a killer boathouse on the best plot in the new island community.

    Provide JL with a powerful telescope so he can jealously watch Shaka and his harem wakesurf.
    Any ideas on a diversion path?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelado View Post
    Any ideas on a diversion path?
    I wouldn't care as long as it runs through the NSA data center.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    That's funny. Divert the provo river, hobble creek, SF river, etc. and while we are at it, use whatever magic voodoo we are using to "divert" those rivers and divert all the groundwater that goes into the lake through the bottom and springs and seeps on the edges.

    Reminds me of when we have an inversion and someone asks "Why don't they just build a big fan to blow out all the bad air?".

    Easily done in my world where money isn't an object.

    The rivers could be diverted through the current lake bed by building temporary dykes that effectively function as riverbanks. We can just put a cork in the natural springs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelado View Post
    Any ideas on a diversion path?

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    We could loop it through the tree streets and back through the river bottoms. JL wants riverfront property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    June sucker = utah's version of the delta smelt.

    I am sympathetic and supportive of the endangered species act but we have to figure out a way to get some balance. Put a bunch of suckers in a tank, use rotenone to kill all the carp and reintroduce the june sucker. Might not save the sucker, but it seems like a much better long term solution. I would think killing off the carp would have lots of positive environmental impacts. But maybe the late is too big for treatment.
    I wonder if it is even truly possible to get rid of the carp completely without some sort of genetic manipulation introduced (maybe a virus). The Jordan River is full of Carp. I know the Jordan flows from the Utah lake, not into it, but I think there will always be a way for them to find their way back.

    There is a man made pond in Draper that one of our alfalfa fields used to border. The tributary that flowed into the pond was on our property. Is was a swamp about the size of a soccer field. In the Spring the carp would spawn in this swamp area. MY brother, myself, and any number of our friends would wade through the swamp with baseball bats and smack anything that moved. Then we would collect the floating carcasses and use them on the neighborhood vegetable gardens. Good times.

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    I could lower Utah Lake by 15 feet for around a billion dollars.

    I would build big rubber dams/bladders filled with water and cordon off the lake into 1/10th sections.
    I would pump the water out of the 1/10th into the 9/10's.
    Each section would be pumped and excavated to the proper depth. The deeper the better... it's only removing 20 of overburden.
    I would put the dirt south and west of the airport - expanding the airport into a much larger and more major airport than it is....
    I would put some dirt in the middle and make an island community much like Jumeriah. High end homes with boat docks.
    I would call the island community Utetopia in honor of the original tribal members.
    I would put an Indian Casino at the heart of the Utetopia producing jobs for the local Native Americans, and as a way to pay for the dredging and construction.
    A section of of Utetopia would be reserved for BYU to build a modern football stadium.

    I could lower the lake for 1 billion, and I could build the community for 2.5 billion. 3.5 billion would be a deal for such overall positive results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USUC View Post
    There is a man made pond in Draper that one of our alfalfa fields used to border. The tributary that flowed into the pond was on our property. Is was a swamp about the size of a soccer field. In the Spring the carp would spawn in this swamp area. MY brother, myself, and any number of our friends would wade through the swamp with baseball bats and smack anything that moved. Then we would collect the floating carcasses and use them on the neighborhood vegetable gardens. Good times.
    This is essentially what they are doing in Utah Lake now... but on a larger scale:




    Just back your truck up and grab a pitch fork!
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    This makes more sense than that giant ski resort that was going to be based right out of Provo but it has about the same chance of ever getting done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaka View Post
    Provide JL with a powerful telescope so he can jealously watch Shaka and his harem wakesurf.
    Shaka, why do you lob softballs like this at me? Do you have any idea how much willpower it takes not to respond?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Shaka, why do you lob softballs like this at me? Do you have any idea how much willpower it takes not to respond?
    I’m hoping it dawned on you that I may not be serious. Besides, I can’t have you looking in on my boating activities. From a religious perspective you are, “The Man”. You might feel obligated to pass word of my deeds along to my, “The Man”.


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    idk a cab driver can still probably get a temple recommend even if some dude engages in self gratification in the back seat
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    If only we had a professional fisheries biologist on the board who could weigh in here...
    Typical Ute. Where is he when we need him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaka View Post
    I’m hoping it dawned on you that I may not be serious. Besides, I can’t have you looking in on my boating activities. From a religious perspective you are, “The Man”. You might feel obligated to pass word of my deeds along to my, “The Man”.


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    Another softball. Stop!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Another softball. Stop!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cougjunkie View Post
    Lehis new Mayor Mark Johnson, pointed this out and contacted the author of the article.
    What a maroon. The article clearly states this is about the Provo metro area, of which Lehi is a part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveCoug View Post
    What a maroon. The article clearly states this is about the Provo metro area, of which Lehi is a part.
    Not to mention the fact that Lehi would be nowhere without the business leaders and tech folks that BYU keeps cranking out. What a knucklehead.
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    Not a perfect fit for this thread, but this will do. Interesting article about a non-LDS guy that moved from SF to Provo.

    https://medium.com/@shl/from-bubble-...e-21d86195e178
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    i would bet a fair amount of money that the brigham in the story is brigham daniels from byu law. awesome guy.
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    Listen to this man Provo and let Maple Mountain Brew Co open.

    Provo should care more about their own outgroup, the areligious. In Provo, Mormons rule. If you’re a non-Mormon, you’re in the minority regardless of your skin color. Your lifestyle is infringed upon and your vote is disenfranchised. Public transport is closed on Sundays, as well as the municipal gym. It would be more welcoming to people like me if Sundays didn’t feel so hostile.
    The crux of what has traumatized us about CUF/CG is that we thought they were our friends. And their identity as BYU fans turned out to be the most important thing to them. What empty lives! What a damning indictment of the LDS Church!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Not a perfect fit for this thread, but this will do. Interesting article about a non-LDS guy that moved from SF to Provo.

    https://medium.com/@shl/from-bubble-...e-21d86195e178
    Excellent. Really wonderful post. Love this line and lol at the warning:

    Today, I only debate in person. Anything else is pointless, because it is too easy to walk away. I make sure we’re pulling from the same dictionary, and I make sure we’re aligned on the same goal, and not about making sure the other person converts to their side. (Warning: This does not work with Mormon missionaries.)

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    That dude is a dipshit. I'm racist if I oppose the legalization of marijuana? Whatever, dipshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
    That dude is a dipshit. I'm racist if I oppose the legalization of marijuana? Whatever, dipshit.
    lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
    That dude is a dipshit. I'm racist if I oppose the legalization of marijuana? Whatever, dipshit.
    He voted for Hillary... that should have been your first clue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    He voted for Hillary... that should have been your first clue.
    Wow. You are hitting a Clinton angle in almost every post today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
    That dude is a dipshit. I'm racist if I oppose the legalization of marijuana? Whatever, dipshit.
    Yeah, that part was pretty dumb. But I can see now how liberals justify applying that term so often.
    Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
    That dude is a dipshit. I'm racist if I oppose the legalization of marijuana? Whatever, dipshit.
    I had considered sharing that article with others, but that part of the article rendered the rest of it useless. It's unfortunate the majority of media consumers cannot employ critical thinking to articles and extract that which passes cursory logic application and disregard the rest. The part about having face-to-face conversations is right on point. Agile Manifesto 12 principles FTW.

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    "it just has a vastly disproportionate effect on members of minority groups, particularly those in intersectional minority groups, with no real upshot. how could it be racist?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by old_gregg View Post
    "it just has a vastly disproportionate effect on members of minority groups, particularly those in intersectional minority groups, with no real upshot. how could it be racist?"
    The why it has a disproportionate effect on members of minority groups is important. Why do they use it? Culture? The reasons may have nothing to do with marijuana itself. It's a known remedy for stress and anxiety. If the reason is that minorities are more stressed and feel greater anxiety, then that is a different problem that legalization only masks.

    Issues related specifically to how the laws are written are also important. The use in public still facilitates lopsided punishment along race and ethnic lines.

    https://psmag.com/news/why-legalizin...and-how-it-can


    The "no real upshot" is a debatable point.
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...fle-motivation

    This perspective could make it racist to allow legal marijuana as it perpetuates the public image of minority groups that use it as lazy and unproductive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swampfrog View Post
    The why it has a disproportionate effect on members of minority groups is important. Why do they use it? Culture? The reasons may have nothing to do with marijuana itself. It's a known remedy for stress and anxiety. If the reason is that minorities are more stressed and feel greater anxiety, then that is a different problem that legalization only masks.

    Issues related specifically to how the laws are written are also important. The use in public still facilitates lopsided punishment along race and ethnic lines.

    https://psmag.com/news/why-legalizin...and-how-it-can


    The "no real upshot" is a debatable point.
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...fle-motivation

    This perspective could make it racist to allow legal marijuana as it perpetuates the public image of minority groups that use it as lazy and unproductive.
    yes this makes sense. wouldn’t give a 16 year old keys to the ferrari—way too immature and irresponsible.
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