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  • I found it... Here is the Provo "Palm Jumeirah" project:

    Company proposes ‘island paradise,’ to be built on Utah Lake

    A private group is pushing for an island city in the middle of Utah Lake, with the end goal of restoring the state's largest body of fresh water.


    One of the directors of The Arches Utah Lake Restoration Project is from Utah, and helped develop island city in Dubai.
    [...]
    http://fox13now.com/2018/01/09/compa...-on-utah-lake/

    Buy your "island paradise" property while it is cheap!
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    • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
      I found it... Here is the Provo "Palm Jumeirah" project:


      http://fox13now.com/2018/01/09/compa...-on-utah-lake/

      Buy your "island paradise" property while it is cheap!
      It involves dredging the lake, you dummy.

      I have known about this project for a few years now but was bound by a non-disclosure agreement. Would be cool if they can pull it off.
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      • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
        It involves dredging the lake, you dummy.

        I have known about this project for a few years now but was bound by a non-disclosure agreement. Would be cool if they can pull it off.
        WOUld it, in fact, be likely to restore the pristine state of the lake?
        PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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        • Originally posted by creekster View Post
          WOUld it, in fact, be likely to restore the pristine state of the lake?
          Along with everything else planned, yes it would. Dredging the lake has been talked about forever, but the issue has always been the cost. This is a obviously a huge project and they have been doing years of studies, computer simulations, etc.
          "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
          "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
          "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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          • Originally posted by creekster View Post
            WOUld it, in fact, be likely to restore the pristine state of the lake?
            I'm no Phd ground water management... but in a nutshell... the deeper the water of a fresh water lake, the healthier it is... Utah Lake is so filled with silt, that it's pristine nature has diminished over time. If you tripled the depth of the lake with dredging, and put an Indian Casino in the middle of it (to pay for it)... stock the lake with Native German Browns... the lake would return to a pristine state for a couple of centuries.

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            • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
              It involves dredging the lake, you dummy.

              I have known about this project for a few years now but was bound by a non-disclosure agreement. Would be cool if they can pull it off.
              “The price tag for the conservation efforts alone is 6.4 billion dollars and that's why the public can't bear the cost of this,” Parker said.

              Their plan is to make an island city shaped like the iconic delicate arch, with homes and businesses. The group argues this plan isn't a land grab, but an attempt to restore the area for generations to come.
              I keep scratching my head to figure out how they are going to pay for this... Maybe they will find a crapload of oil under Utah Lake to fund this thing.

              Or maybe they will just get the state of Utah to stick it to all you tax payers.
              "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
              "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
              "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
              GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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              • Originally posted by clackamascoug View Post
                I'm no Phd ground water management... but in a nutshell... the deeper the water of a fresh water lake, the healthier it is... Utah Lake is so filled with silt, that it's pristine nature has diminished over time. If you tripled the depth of the lake with dredging, and put an Indian Casino in the middle of it (to pay for it)... stock the lake with Native German Browns... the lake would return to a pristine state for a couple of centuries.
                Ah, maybe that is their game plan... Just think of all the gas and pollution that would be save from people having to drive I-80 to go to Bendover!
                "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                  Along with everything else planned, yes it would. Dredging the lake has been talked about forever, but the issue has always been the cost. This is a obviously a huge project and they have been doing years of studies, computer simulations, etc.
                  Originally posted by clackamascoug View Post
                  I'm no Phd ground water management... but in a nutshell... the deeper the water of a fresh water lake, the healthier it is... Utah Lake is so filled with silt, that it's pristine nature has diminished over time. If you tripled the depth of the lake with dredging, and put an Indian Casino in the middle of it (to pay for it)... stock the lake with Native German Browns... the lake would return to a pristine state for a couple of centuries.
                  Is silt the problem with Utah Lake? Are there any issues with fertilizer run off or controlled canyon river flows as well?
                  PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                  • Originally posted by creekster View Post
                    Is silt the problem with Utah Lake? Are there any issues with fertilizer run off or controlled canyon river flows as well?
                    What about all the little delta smelt fish that are being killed by those damn farmers?

                    Yeah Creek, I can see Utah turning into another California.
                    "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                    "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                    "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                    • Originally posted by creekster View Post
                      Is silt the problem with Utah Lake? Are there any issues with fertilizer run off or controlled canyon river flows as well?
                      Combination of things. Shallow depth is the biggest problem. It keeps the temps high and the wind and shallow depth result in big waves that stir up the silt.
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                      • They are going to need to dredge more than 12-22". They need to take a good 5-10' off the bottom.

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                        • “I really like it down here. Even though it's dirty and gross I like it,” said Sienna Smith of Orem.
                          Ha!

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                          • Originally posted by Shaka View Post
                            They are going to need to dredge more than 12-22". They need to take a good 5-10' off the bottom.
                            Where did you get that number?

                            I have looked at the details in a while, but some areas will be dredged deeper than others. It involves causeways to deal with winds and currents. The dredged material will be used to build up the land. Also, the state already has a dredging project that is launching soon. All the harbors and surrounding areas will be dredged first.
                            "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                            "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                            "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                            • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                              Where did you get that number?

                              I have looked at the details in a while, but some areas will be dredged deeper than others. It involves causeways to deal with winds and currents. The dredged material will be used to build up the land. Also, the state already has a dredging project that is launching soon. All the harbors and surrounding areas will be dredged first.
                              The 12-22" came from the video in the link. I'm guessing that would be an average, and that it would be more in some spots and less in others. But if it's costing $6B to do that, Shaka's 5-10' is a pipe dream within a pipe dream.
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                              • Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
                                The 12-22" came from the video in the link. I'm guessing that would be an average, and that it would be more in some spots and less in others. But if it's costing $6B to do that, Shaka's 5-10' is a pipe dream within a pipe dream.
                                That was my first reaction. But if you could create a large mass of premium real estate in the middle of one of the fast growing places in the nation? Might be able to pull it off.
                                "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                                "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                                "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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