What's right with California?

[Now who’s the dean?]

Good for U of California...

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Yes, admissions and scholarships decisions should be made on the number participation awards the applicant has.

You’re also an expert on university admissions? Damn.

[Uncle Ted]

I think that this refers to testing accommodation in the time of Covid only. But once they take the lid off of that box...

Maybe you missed this part...

The University of California Board of Regents in May announced it was waiving the standardized test requirement for freshman applicants until 2024. The board added it would officially eliminate the requirement if a new test did not meet certain criteria by 2025.

I get the feeling that U Cal admissions will be largely subjective for some time which may cheapen the brand for its graduates.

[Flystripper]

Doubt it.


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[Katy Lied]

As I have multiple degrees from there, I am concerned.

[Flystripper]

As I have multiple degrees from there, I am concerned.

It will remain incredibly competitive to gain entry and graduates from the system will continue to perform at the highest level. The prestige of your degree is safe.


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[Jeff Lebowski]

This isn't new. They have been moving this way for a long time. Gives them more freedom to structure the admissions to match their diversity targets while avoiding lawsuits like the one Yale just lost in the supreme court.

[Uncle Ted]

This isn't new. They have been moving this way for a long time. Gives them more freedom to structure the admissions to match their diversity targets while avoiding lawsuits like the one Yale just lost in the supreme court.

Sounds like to me they are just setting themselves up for lawsuits when some whistle blower spills the beans how they unfairly favor some candidates over others.


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[Jeff Lebowski]

Sounds like to me they are just setting themselves up for lawsuits when some whistle blower spills the beans how they unfairly favor some candidates over others.

Yeah, but when you eliminate objective measures like SAT/ACT scores, those cases are much more difficult to make.

[old_gregg]

It will remain incredibly competitive to gain entry and graduates from the system will continue to perform at the highest level. The prestige of your degree is safe.


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unless you went to, like, csu northridge or davis, then the prestige of your degree is pretty much already shit

[swampfrog]

Yeah, but when you eliminate objective measures like SAT/ACT scores, those cases are much more difficult to make.

This will make it even easier if it passes.

The measure would repeal Section 31 of Article I of the California Constitution. The following text would be repealed:[8]

• The State shall not discriminate against, or grant preferential treatment to, any individual or group on the basis of race, sex, color, ethnicity, or national origin in the operation of public employment, public education, or public contracting.

Yes, you read that right, it will take that text out. I agree with the intent to some level, providing advantages for people that otherwise would be left out, but I prefer the main statute being non-discrimination with exceptions. Seems like elimination of the text is opening the abuse opportunity too wide.

[Walter Sobchak]

As I have multiple degrees from there, I am concerned.

Isn't BYU doing the same thing? Between my wife and I, we have five degrees from BYU. Very concerned!

[Uncle Ted]

Isn't BYU doing the same thing? Between my wife and I, we have five degrees from BYU. Very concerned!

BYU already cheapened their graduates' degrees when they renamed Ricks BYU... The value of your degrees have already taken a big hit. I know many BYU-I(-do) grads that say "BYU" when they are asked where they graduated from only to find only later they actually graduated from Brigham's potato fields of Idaho.

[Uncle Ted]

This will make it even easier if it passes.



Yes, you read that right, it will take that text out. I agree with the intent to some level, providing advantages for people that otherwise would be left out, but I prefer the main statute being non-discrimination with exceptions. Seems like elimination of the text is opening the abuse opportunity too wide.

Of course, you are assuming the liberal nutcases that run UC would be tempted to abuse it. So are you saying liberals are dishonest?

[swampfrog]

Of course, you are assuming the liberal nutcases that run UC would be tempted to abuse it. So are you saying liberals are dishonest?

Motivated dishonesty is an innate human trait. As long as they are human they are dishonest. It is the belief of some humans of many ideologies that they are indeed above innate human failings that causes most of the problems.

[Uncle Ted]

Motivated dishonesty is an innate human trait. As long as they are human they are dishonest. It is the belief of some humans of many ideologies that they are indeed above innate human failings that causes most of the problems.

LOL... If you ask the Dems around here they will tell you that liberals, like Biden, never lie.