Mountain West Salvation Groundswell

[The Fourth Nephite]

I think I speak for gracious Ute fans everywhere when I say you have our pity and condolences.

Thanks, to both of you. I appreciate it.

[shoganai]

MWC Eastern Division:

Houston
Tulsa
SMU
New Mexico BYU New Mexico
Air Force
Colorado State
Wyoming
Utah State

MWC Western Division:

Boise State
BYU New Mexico Who cares?
Hawaii
San Diego State
Fresno State
San Jose State
Nevada
UNLV

Independent:
BYU

Fixed.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

No you move boise st for Utah st then you have a 9 game conference schedule where you play every team from other division once every 4 years. byu then plays Utah st every year.

Yeah no conference has ever gotten screwed playing 9 conference games!

[LiveCoug]

Fixed.

[USUC]

If Gonzalo and St Mary's go to the new catholic league, some sort of arrangement with the MWC has to be made. The WCC would be absolute garbage. Ideal would be all sports besides football in the MWC. But With SDSU, Boise, Houston, and SMU going to the MWC, there is no room for the 17th team.

[USUC]

If Gonzalo and St Mary's go to the new catholic league, some sort of arrangement with the MWC has to be made. The WCC would be absolute garbage. Ideal would be all sports besides football in the MWC. But With SDSU, Boise, Houston, and SMU going to the MWC, there is no room for the 17th team.

Unless of course the rumors of the PAC-12 picking up SDSU and Boise have some truth to them.

[UtahJazzFan88]

If Gonzalo and St Mary's go to the new catholic league, some sort of arrangement with the MWC has to be made. The WCC would be absolute garbage. Ideal would be all sports besides football in the MWC. But With SDSU, Boise, Houston, and SMU going to the MWC, there is no room for the 17th team.

Where is the 17 from? (I'm guessing that your also putting Tulsa & UTEP in that 16) Hawaii is football only so a non-football school like BYU or Gonzaga could offset them.

[USUC]

Where is the 17 from? (I'm guessing that your also putting Tulsa & UTEP in that 16) Hawaii is football only so a non-football school like BYU or Gonzaga could offset them.

You are right. For some reason I thought the addition of SJSU and USU put them at 12. But I guess that number doesn't include the defections of SDSU and Boise. Disregard my previous posts.

Still, I can't imagine SDSU and Boise staying put with the Big East.

[San Juan Sun]

The MWC will supposedly allow BYU to keep the ESPN deal until it expires. If so, I agree to join the MWC if they meet one more demand: change that awful logo.

Honestly, if we:

- keep the ESPN deal
- play 4-5 good OOC games with ESPN's brokerage
- get a crack at a championship game
- have better BCS access
- get in a solid basketball conference

then I say we go for it.

[venkman]

Ugh, WAC-16 2.0

[Jacob]

Dump bottom 4 and it might not be as bad...usu, wyo etc.

[USUC]

The MWC will supposedly allow BYU to keep the ESPN deal until it expires. If so, I agree to join the MWC if they meet one more demand: change that awful logo.

Honestly, if we:

- keep the ESPN deal
- play 4-5 good OOC games with ESPN's brokerage
- get a crack at a championship game
- have better BCS access
- get in a solid basketball conference

then I say we go for it.

Where are you hearing that they will allow BYU to keep ESPN deal until it expires?

[byu71]

Now my expectations are in check, going to the MWC again won't bug me.

[Flystripper]

The MWC will supposedly allow BYU to keep the ESPN deal until it expires. If so, I agree to join the MWC if they meet one more demand: change that awful logo.

Honestly, if we:

- keep the ESPN deal
- play 4-5 good OOC games with ESPN's brokerage
- get a crack at a championship game
- have better BCS access
- get in a solid basketball conference

then I say we go for it.

[San Juan Sun]

My pie-in-the-sky-but-not-Big12-best-case-scenario for BYU (right now, I reserve the right to change my opinion whenever I want):

- MWC expands to 16, forms two divisions:

Mountain
Houston
SMU
Air Force
New Mexico
Colorado State
Wyoming
UTEP
Utah State

West
BYU
Boise State
Fresno State
SDSU
UNLV
Nevada
San Jose State
Hawaii* (football only)

*** Gonzaga joins for basketball and Olympic sports in place of Hawaii.

Football plays 7 divisional games and one extra-divisional game. Obviously, there is a CCG, preferably in Phoenix.

Basketball plays a divisional round robin (14 games) and 4 games extra-divisional (2 home, 2 away) on a rotating basis. Tournament in Vegas.

BYU keeps ESPN deal until it expires. MWC tries to either buyout or renegotiate CBS TV deal, and BYU is free to join it when the ESPN deal expires.

Under this scenario BYU:
- keeps ESPN contract
- lets BYU broker big games with ESPN
- preserves some regional rivalry, keeps a foot in CA and TX for recruiting
- gives us more to play for than just a national championship
- makes a great basketball conference