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    I know this has been mentioned in several threads, but I think it needs its own groundswell. OK so now that BYU has killed the mtn network by going Indy, they need to rejoin the MWC and convince SDSU and Boise to stay and play. I am sure the conference will be more than happy to let BYUtv pick up tier 3 rights and I am also sure they could get a decent ESPN deal for the conference as long as Boise and BYU are included.

    Since the Big 12 ain't happening and the Big East is almost as meh as Indy, it is really the best option left.

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    I think I speak for gracious Ute fans everywhere when I say you have our pity and condolences.
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    End this disgusting thread. Now.

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    I support making a 12-14 team conference made up of Western teams, but it cannot be called the MWC. That dog needs to die, although I could be talked into it Hair Thompson and Company got the boot and a whole new conference management team were brought in.

    Oh yeah, a decent TV deal would be a must too.

    BYU
    Boise State
    SDSU
    Hawaii
    Fresno
    Nevada
    UNLV
    Utah State
    Wyoming
    Air Force
    Colorado State
    UNM

    I would be okay with that conference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveCoug View Post
    End this disgusting thread. Now.
    Time to get realistic and devote our energy to threads that might actually happen. The Big 12 groundswell thread is the one that needs to die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by San Juan Sun View Post
    Time to get realistic and devote our energy to threads that might actually happen. The Big 12 groundswell thread is the one that needs to die.
    Sure, but this is not the answer...

    Stay indy or BE are WAY better options than that puke fest you just proposed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveCoug View Post
    Sure, but this is not the answer...

    Stay indy or BE are WAY better options than that puke fest you just proposed.
    I've been on record today as being pro-BigEast.

    I could get behind a revitalized MWC if certain conditions were met, and the BigEast were not a viable option anymore.

    I am off the independence bandwagon. I like having a conference championship to play for.

    Anyways, I think we'll all feel a lot better once we get over the Big12 dream. Truth is, we would have been only better than average once in a while in that league. We can compete in the BigEast or neoMWC, and that competition is compelling to me. Playing exhibition games is not.
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    Only if they agree to add "BYU's Bitches" to all contracts, marketing material, the logo, etc.

    And give BYU 50% of all the TV Revenue.

    And play 2-1 for all football games.

    And ... never mind it's still not worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by San Juan Sun View Post
    I've been on record today as being pro-BigEast.

    I could get behind a revitalized MWC if certain conditions were met, and the BigEast were not a viable option anymore.

    I am off the independence bandwagon. I like having a conference championship to play for.

    Anyways, I think we'll all feel a lot better once we get over the Big12 dream. Truth is, we would have been only better than average once in a while in that league. We can compete in the BigEast or neoMWC, and that competition is compelling to me. Playing exhibition games is not.
    I am so with you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveCoug View Post
    Sure, but this is not the answer...

    Stay indy or BE are WAY better options than that puke fest you just proposed.
    How is Indy or BE a better option? A new Pacific/Mountain conference makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by San Juan Sun View Post
    I support making a 12-14 team conference made up of Western teams, but it cannot be called the MWC. That dog needs to die, although I could be talked into it Hair Thompson and Company got the boot and a whole new conference management team were brought in.

    Oh yeah, a decent TV deal would be a must too.

    BYU
    Boise State
    SDSU
    Hawaii
    Fresno
    Nevada
    UNLV
    Utah State
    Wyoming
    Air Force
    Colorado State
    UNM

    I would be okay with that conference.
    That is actually a decent football conference (every bit as good if not better than what is left of the Big East) and a very, very good basketball conference. I am on board!

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    Conflicted... I disagree with Wrubell about a lot of things (i.e. his strange love of the WCC), but he's with me on this one!


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    Didn't Dodd suggest that BYU return to the MWC? Would BYU ever consider that? I sure hope not.....
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    Good gravy, I heard that, too, and ...well, I agree with you.

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    Why in the world would BYU want to put a bunch of crappy teams on their back and carry them again like they did the MWC? BYU is much better off as an Independent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kccougar View Post
    Why in the world would BYU want to put a bunch of crappy teams on their back and carry them again like they did the MWC? BYU is much better off as an Independent.
    You must love watching the Harlem Globetrotters. How many NBA titles have they won?

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    I do not endorse this abomination of a thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flystripper View Post
    You must love watching the Harlem Globetrotters. How many NBA titles have they won?
    No, but with a balanced schedule (by teams, not dates) and tiered bowl agreements tied to performance, it would certainly be better than the MWC/WAC/CUSA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    I do not endorse this abomination of a thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    I do not endorse this abomination of a thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FMCoug View Post
    Only if they agree to add "BYU's Bitches" to all contracts, marketing material, the logo, etc.

    And give BYU 50% of all the TV Revenue.

    And play 2-1 for all football games.

    And ... never mind it's still not worth it.

    A few more:
    2 divisions and a championship game, but only 5 conference games (against teams in your division),

    A 30 day notice from BYU to opt out of the conference

    BYU keeps rights to non-conference home games

    Let's make this thing work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    A few more:
    2 divisions and a championship game, but only 5 conference games (against teams in your division),

    A 30 day notice from BYU to opt out of the conference

    BYU keeps rights to non-conference home games

    Let's make this thing work!
    Sounds about like the negotiating BYU did with the Big East.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kccougar View Post
    No, but with a balanced schedule (by teams, not dates) and tiered bowl agreements tied to performance, it would certainly be better than the MWC/WAC/CUSA.
    So basically you would be a Harlem Globetrotters fan if they played a few NBA teams along with the Washington Generals and if they got to play a game against either the Charlotte Bobcats, Minnesota Timberwolves or Portland Trailblazers based on their performance once their season was over. Gotcha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flystripper View Post
    So basically you would be a Harlem Globetrotters fan if they played a few NBA teams along with the Washington Generals and if they got to play a game against either the Charlotte Bobcats, Minnesota Timberwolves or Portland Trailblazers based on their performance once their season was over. Gotcha.
    The Globetrotters is what came to my mind when I read that too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flystripper View Post
    So basically you would be a Harlem Globetrotters fan if they played a few NBA teams along with the Washington Generals and if they got to play a game against either the Charlotte Bobcats, Minnesota Timberwolves or Portland Trailblazers based on their performance once their season was over. Gotcha.
    You would really rather play in the MWC? Getting crowned the champion of that sorry lot of teams means that much?
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    Quote Originally Posted by San Juan Sun View Post
    I support making a 12-14 team conference made up of Western teams, but it cannot be called the MWC. That dog needs to die, although I could be talked into it Hair Thompson and Company got the boot and a whole new conference management team were brought in.

    Oh yeah, a decent TV deal would be a must too.

    BYU
    Boise State
    SDSU
    Hawaii
    Fresno
    Nevada
    UNLV
    Utah State
    Wyoming
    Air Force
    Colorado State
    UNM

    I would be okay with that conference.
    So....all the crap of the MWC and the WAC along with BYU and BSU? Great.

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    Jeff. Do the noble thing. End this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flystripper View Post
    You will come around.
    Listen, when LiveCoug thinks you are being too pessimistic you know you have a serious problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flystripper View Post
    I know this has been mentioned in several threads, but I think it needs its own groundswell. OK so now that BYU has killed the mtn network by going Indy, they need to rejoin the MWC and convince SDSU and Boise to stay and play. I am sure the conference will be more than happy to let BYUtv pick up tier 3 rights and I am also sure they could get a decent ESPN deal for the conference as long as Boise and BYU are included.

    Since the Big 12 ain't happening and the Big East is almost as meh as Indy, it is really the best option left.
    I said this years ago. You guys never listend to me about anything. My threads die on the vine, and then turn out to be totally correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Listen, when LiveCoug thinks you are being too pessimistic you know you have a serious problem.
    LiveCoug is the pessimistic one about this new mountain/pacific conference. I am very optimistic about it. I like it better than Indy. I think I also like it better than the Big East due to regional games and rivalries. Also it is at least comparable to what is left in the Big East in terms of competition anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus View Post
    So....all the crap of the MWC and the WAC along with BYU and BSU? Great.
    It's not the crap of those conferences. It is no worse than the MWC we were used to. The problem is that is isn't any better. I'm not sure whether it is any better than indy, which is the relevant question. Generically, I'd prefer a league and a championship game to what we've seen so far as indy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kccougar View Post
    You would really rather play in the MWC? Getting crowned the champion of that sorry lot of teams means that much?
    Yes I would rather play in a mountain/pacific conference as described by SJS. Getting crowned a champion of that conference is better than no crown with no conference. BYU would still have at least 4 out of conference games where they can play the good part of our current Indy schedule. With no Big 12 invite it is a no brainer really.
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