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"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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Now Ford, through her lawyers, says she will talk to the committee but not until after the FBI has completed a thorough investigation. Investigate what? in light of the fact that this supposed event happened almost 40 years ago and that the other person supposedly present says he knows nothing and never saw Kavanaugh behave in the manner described, and given that Kavanaugh categorically denies it took place at all, any investigation has to start with this witness. Where else can they go? So why can't she tell her story to the committee now? If it's credible it might support further investigation and perhaps require Kavanaugh to withdraw his nomination. But refusing to speak now leaves little choice but to conclude this is all just grandstanding to delay until after the midterms. And, if it works, it will just further diminish reasonable behavior in congress or in the country.PLesa excuse the tpyos.
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Originally posted by creekster View PostNow Ford, through her lawyers, says she will talk to the committee but not until after the FBI has completed a thorough investigation. Investigate what? in light of the fact that this supposed event happened almost 40 years ago and that the other person supposedly present says he knows nothing and never saw Kavanaugh behave in the manner described, and given that Kavanaugh categorically denies it took place at all, any investigation has to start with this witness. Where else can they go? So why can't she tell her story to the committee now? If it's credible it might support further investigation and perhaps require Kavanaugh to withdraw his nomination. But refusing to speak now leaves little choice but to conclude this is all just grandstanding to delay until after the midterms. And, if it works, it will just further diminish reasonable behavior in congress or in the country.Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
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GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by creekster View PostHe looks like he has experience with the issue.
Michael Moore just sledged that there could be other victims of Kavanuagh sure, there could be, but apparently none are interested in coming forward"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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It's obvious I have a different concept of what a political activist is than others like AJ and FR. For example, I don't think attending a political demonstration is enough. The people I see as activists are those people who are monotone when it comes to their political views. These are the people who see only evil on the other side of the aisle. I have family on both ends of the spectrum. They're so close minded there's no reasoning with them. More and more, this is politics in America. No wonder Russia has such an easy time sewing discord.
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Originally posted by Bo Diddley View PostIt's obvious I have a different concept of what a political activist is than others like AJ and FR. For example, I don't think attending a political demonstration is enough. The people I see as activists are those people who are monotone when it comes to their political views. These are the people who see only evil on the other side of the aisle. I have family on both ends of the spectrum. They're so close minded there's no reasoning with them. More and more, this is politics in America. No wonder Russia has such an easy time sewing discord.
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Originally posted by falafel View PostAgreed. Nothing but a further delay tactic. If the judiciary committee presses on, the other side will cry that they brushed aside her claims and refused to let them be investigated before rushing the vote through.
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Originally posted by creekster View PostNow Ford, through her lawyers, says she will talk to the committee but not until after the FBI has completed a thorough investigation. Investigate what? in light of the fact that this supposed event happened almost 40 years ago and that the other person supposedly present says he knows nothing and never saw Kavanaugh behave in the manner described, and given that Kavanaugh categorically denies it took place at all, any investigation has to start with this witness. Where else can they go? So why can't she tell her story to the committee now? If it's credible it might support further investigation and perhaps require Kavanaugh to withdraw his nomination. But refusing to speak now leaves little choice but to conclude this is all just grandstanding to delay until after the midterms. And, if it works, it will just further diminish reasonable behavior in congress or in the country."Seriously, is there a bigger high on the whole face of the earth than eating a salad?"--SeattleUte
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Originally posted by creekster View PostNow Ford, through her lawyers, says she will talk to the committee but not until after the FBI has completed a thorough investigation. Investigate what? in light of the fact that this supposed event happened almost 40 years ago and that the other person supposedly present says he knows nothing and never saw Kavanaugh behave in the manner described, and given that Kavanaugh categorically denies it took place at all, any investigation has to start with this witness. Where else can they go? So why can't she tell her story to the committee now? If it's credible it might support further investigation and perhaps require Kavanaugh to withdraw his nomination. But refusing to speak now leaves little choice but to conclude this is all just grandstanding to delay until after the midterms. And, if it works, it will just further diminish reasonable behavior in congress or in the country."...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
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Originally posted by Northwestcoug View PostAgree. On the face of it, I tend to believe her story, and I can give some benefit of doubt to Kavanaugh if he was plastered and honestly can’t remember it (that doesn’t excuse the behavior at all, but if that’s the case, his testimony is truthful). But this smells of political opportunism on her part. She should testify.
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I’ll say it. Who gives a rat’s ass if everything she says about Kavanaugh actually happened?
Good hell a teenage boy getting super drunk and going after a girl is forgivable if he has never done any rapey stuff since then and has subsequently lived an exemplary, honorable life.
I cannot believe anybody is taking this allegation seriously. It is beyond ridiculous and totally outrageous. The Repubs should go ahead and vote him on ASAP. I would say the same thing if this was an Obama SC nominee.
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Originally posted by CardiacCoug View PostI’ll say it. Who gives a rat’s ass if everything she says about Kavanaugh actually happened?
Good hell a teenage boy getting super drunk and going after a girl is forgivable if he has never done any rapey stuff since then and has subsequently lived an exemplary, honorable life.
I cannot believe anybody is taking this allegation seriously. It is beyond ridiculous and totally outrageous. The Repubs should go ahead and vote him on ASAP. I would say the same thing if this was an Obama SC nominee.
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I really don’t want to vote for Ted Cruz. I already voted against him twice. I’m afraid to look up what Beto is saying about this for fear I won’t want to vote for him."Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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Originally posted by frank ryan View PostFree rape attempts, as long you're under 18!
While I believe she is being honest in expressing her recollection, I'd like to hear her responses to a few questions of my own, including whether she was acquainted with Cavanaugh prior to that night and what their relationship (if any) was; had she imbibed any alcohol at the party; were her clothes torn or damaged; who else was at the party; prior to her therapy session in 2012, had she told anyone else about this experience; etc. ?
And this is no doubt further evidence of my ignorance and insensitivity to the trauma women genuinely suffer at the hands of aggressive males, but I don't understand why a woman, with a doctorate in psychology whose dissertation centered on how children cope, would have harbored these pent-up anxieties for 30 years before mentioning them to anyone.
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