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Originally posted by creekster View PostI think he was asking what would the next democratic president do if presented with a conservative majority that might endure for 20 years or so. As noted by someone else, the number of justices is a matter of congressional statute, not the constitution. And as you note, FDR did try to pack the court in order to make the court amenable to his expansion of federal powers in implementing the New Deal. FDR eventually got his way anyway due to attrition on the court and the dire needs of the country in the depression.
I doubt that anyone today would try to do that. Trump certainly could not pull it off, as you note, and I doubt any other president could in the foreseeable future. If we ever get to the point where packing the court does not generate overwhelming pushback, then the court's composition probably won't matter that much anyway. That said, the absolute fealty that so many people now feel towards the result rather than the process makes me think this day is much closer than I ever thought it would be during my life."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
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Originally posted by creekster View PostAs you know, I rarely agree with you, but I agree with this completely. I think the coarsening of public discourse began before Trump. I think it started a more rapid decline with Watergate and the release of the Nixon tapes with their many "expletive deleted" parentheticals and it took another leap downward when we rolled in the mud with Clinton as he argued about what "is" is and what, exactly, he did with the cigar in the oval office. Trump then takes us to almost unimaginably low levels but now the descent is hurried, rather than balanced, by the media's obviously biased obsessions and desperate grab for revenues.
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Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostI can't think of anything the would mobilize a political base more effectively or completely than a SCOTUS overhaul like that. Can you imagine? Yeesh.
I remember as a kid in HS/JH when I first got interested in the world wondering how country's in the developing world could be so screwed up. Tribalism is a huge problem.Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
-General George S. Patton
I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
-DOCTOR Wuap
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Originally posted by swampfrog View PostWas listening to a podcast where an explanation for Trump was raised that finally made sense to me. Trump is simply an avatar and agent for chaos. In a time of increasing political strife, where civil discourse is decaying at an accelerated pace, what exactly should be expected? That an individual that thrives in chaos would emerge. Such an individual is neither Republican or Democrat (parties that in the past have generally believed in civility and order). He could have risen in either party. Perhaps the Republicans were more desperate at the time, so the path to ascension was simpler. To understand his irrational behavior, when seen through the lens of sowing more chaos, Trump's actions are logical. Chaos is his realm, perpetuating it is in his best interest.PLesa excuse the tpyos.
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Originally posted by creekster View PostThat is a little bit cynical, in my view, but it makes some sense. I think that Trump's personality (and my distaste for it) goes beyond chaos, however. He's just an awful person.
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Originally posted by swampfrog View PostI don't mean as a conscious agent, just that his temperament is naturally chaotic. He thrives when things don't make sense.PLesa excuse the tpyos.
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Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostDemocrats controlled everything when FDR attempted it. And he was arguably one of the most popular presidents in history. Yet he still failed miserably.
This is crazy talk. They won't attempt that.
They certainly wont bypass the filibuster for judicial nominees.
Well they wont do it for supreme court justices. That is too important.
No one would withhold serious allegations until the last minute and destroy a man's distinguished career without any corroborating evidence just because of that man's judicial philosophy.
Trump will never survive the nomination process. He is too vile.
Trump won the nomination in a contentious primary of a broken party but he will never be president. Access Hollywood tapes, 5th Avenue gunshot, etc.
All that is crazy talk. Coming soon: Trump will never be reelected and Democrats will never try to pack the supreme court again.
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Originally posted by BlueK View PostWere all the documents the dems were complaining about not being able to examine eventually released?PLesa excuse the tpyos.
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Originally posted by creekster View PostThat is a little bit cynical, in my view, but it makes some sense. I think that Trump's personality (and my distaste for it) goes beyond chaos, however. He's just an awful person.Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
-General George S. Patton
I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
-DOCTOR Wuap
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Originally posted by frank ryan View PostWe know what’s on it?"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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Originally posted by falafel View PostOf course you don't.Last edited by frank ryan; 10-03-2018, 12:01 PM.
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Originally posted by Moliere View PostThe people that need the information do. You don’t get to vote for or against Kav so why does it need to be made public? I think the Ford investigation should have been private, just like the system is set up to do, but Feinstein decided to make it public.
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