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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    I'm this close to cutting the cord. In fact, I'm currently redoing some of the wiring in my house to make internet available in all necessary rooms. Cat5 cable runs to all rooms but I'm hooking it all up to ethernet plugs and putting in a switch in the panel.

    One question, what download speed is needed to cut the cord? I'd probably stream at max 3 different videos at once. We currently get around 100mps, which I assume is overkill, but just want to make sure.
    You need about 4-6mbps per "HD" stream maybe. 4K streams are more like 20mbps.

    The question is are you really getting 100mbps. Try going to Netflix's speed test ( http://fast.com ) and seeing what it says. That will give a good idea how many Netflix streams your internet can support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    I'm this close to cutting the cord. In fact, I'm currently redoing some of the wiring in my house to make internet available in all necessary rooms. Cat5 cable runs to all rooms but I'm hooking it all up to ethernet plugs and putting in a switch in the panel.

    One question, what download speed is needed to cut the cord? I'd probably stream at max 3 different videos at once. We currently get around 100mps, which I assume is overkill, but just want to make sure.
    I'm all in on streaming, and i have a 100 Mbps connection. Plenty for all.
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    I've liked Playstation Vue for the most part. Between that and Fox Sports Now I can watch the Sunday NFL games. They did just remove all Viacom channels from their lineup. The only Viacom offering I miss is Comedy Central.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    I assume you mean 100 mbps. You should be fine.
    Yes, sorry

    Thanks for the input. Looks like I'm good on internet until google decides to come to town.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    Yes, sorry

    Thanks for the input. Looks like I'm good on internet until google decides to come to town.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaka View Post
    I've liked Playstation Vue for the most part. Between that and Fox Sports Now I can watch the Sunday NFL games. They did just remove all Viacom channels from their lineup. The only Viacom offering I miss is Comedy Central.
    I got Vue just for football season, I don't watch anything else. There's such a huge amount of stuff on Netflix, Amazon and Hulu that I simply don't miss the cable channels

    I also think the transmission looks better streaming through Vue. It seemed like they compressed the signal a ton and you weren't really getting 720p/1080i/p
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    Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
    I got Vue just for football season, I don't watch anything else. There's such a huge amount of stuff on Netflix, Amazon and Hulu that I simply don't miss it.

    I also think the transmission looks better streaming through Vue. It seemed like they compressed the signal a ton and you weren't really getting 720p/1080i/p
    I gave up Netflix and now just use Hulu, PSVue, and HBO NOW. I have more than enough content. Plenty of movies available too. I haven't used my Apple TV to rent a movie in a few months.

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    The AT&T/Directv Now streaming service (their answer to Dish's SlingTV service) seems interesting... And you may get a "free" AppleTV for signing up. 100 channels for $35/mo. It is not clear what channels will be included. The only confirmed channels is what was leaked in a screen capture or something like.

    AT&T will hand out free Apple TVs for subscribers on its new $35 streaming service

    Two weeks ago, AT&T signaled its plan to make inroads in the TV space via a new Internet-only subscription service dubbed DirecTV Now. Priced at just $35/month and boasting upwards of 100 channels, DirecTV Now offers an incredibly enticing value proposition for consumers who are angling to cut the cord but who aren’t yet ready to survive solely on a diet consisting of Netflix and Hulu.

    Now comes word via our sister site Variety that AT&T, in an effort to make DirecTV Now even more of an attractive deal, will be giving away free Apple TV units and Fire TV Stick devices to new subscribers. Specifically, subscribers who commit to a three month subscription will get a brand new Apple TV while subscribers who commit to one month will receive a Fire TV Stick. Coupled with an attractive $35 price point, DirecTV Now is an incredible deal.


    As for the full selection of channels that will be available via DirecTV Now, nothing official has been released yet. Still, some of the rumored stations include MTV, TBS, A&E, BET, Bravo, Cartoon Network, truTV, TNT, Nickelodeon, TV Land and more. Of course, availability — especially with respect to live programming — will vary based on licensing regulations across different geographic regions.


    One final note worth mentioning is that DirecTV Now will reportedly give subscribers a 72-hour window where they can use an on-demand service to catch up on recently aired shows that they missed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaka View Post
    I've liked Playstation Vue for the most part. Between that and Fox Sports Now I can watch the Sunday NFL games. They did just remove all Viacom channels from their lineup. The only Viacom offering I miss is Comedy Central.
    I tried PSVue again on the Roku. It would let me pause live ESPN programming, but only for about five minutes. Wouldn't let me rewind or skip back for instant replay. Couldn't really use it to skip commercials and such during the games. Seemed like they were just integrating the WatchESPN functionality.

    So I went back to DirecTV.
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    The AT&T/Directv Now streaming service (their answer to Dish's SlingTV service) seems interesting... And you may get a "free" AppleTV for signing up. 100 channels for $35/mo. It is not clear what channels will be included. The only confirmed channels is what was leaked in a screen capture or something like.


    http://bgr.com/2016/11/07/att-directv-now-apple-tv/
    Any info on whether it will have full DVR capability on live sporting events?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelado View Post
    I tried PSVue again on the Roku. It would let me pause live ESPN programming, but only for about five minutes. Wouldn't let me rewind or skip back for instant replay. Couldn't really use it to skip commercials and such during the games. Seemed like they were just integrating the WatchESPN functionality.

    So I went back to DirecTV.

    Any info on whether it will have full DVR capability on live sporting events?

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    They need to fix the interface and come out with a dedicated streaming box. I think fitting it into the shell of a Roku might be limiting. I also think it's high time they got hard drives on these streaming boxes so you could have an actual DVR. The PSVue DVR is ok but it messes up quite a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaka View Post
    They need to fix the interface and come out with a dedicated streaming box. I think fitting it into the shell of a Roku might be limiting. I also think it's high time they got hard drives on these streaming boxes so you could have an actual DVR. The PSVue DVR is ok but it messes up quite a bit.
    It works better on a Playstation.

    A cloud based DVR with live streaming content has its limitations right now, obviously.
    Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    You need about 4-6mbps per "HD" stream maybe. 4K streams are more like 20mbps.

    The question is are you really getting 100mbps. Try going to Netflix's speed test ( http://fast.com ) and seeing what it says. That will give a good idea how many Netflix streams your internet can support.
    It depends for some reason on the location of the TV/computer in the house. In my study I get 112 mbps. Upstairs, the apple tv only gets 92mbps. It's likely due to the longer cable that runs upstairs. But either speeds are good enough.

    I've now got all connection points wired with RJ45 connectors and cat cables. I've got a free trial to Sling and Hulu. Both seem to work flawlessly, although the channel order in Sling will take some getting used to. In all, I'll be paying around $50/month although I could go cheaper if I wanted but I want Fox Sports and a couple other channels. I'm currently paying $125 with Dish, so there is some savings.

    My next buy will have to be an OTA antenna. I haven't even starting looking for one. Any thoughts there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    It depends for some reason on the location of the TV/computer in the house. In my study I get 112 mbps. Upstairs, the apple tv only gets 92mbps. It's likely due to the longer cable that runs upstairs. But either speeds are good enough.

    I've now got all connection points wired with RJ45 connectors and cat cables. I've got a free trial to Sling and Hulu. Both seem to work flawlessly, although the channel order in Sling will take some getting used to. In all, I'll be paying around $50/month although I could go cheaper if I wanted but I want Fox Sports and a couple other channels. I'm currently paying $125 with Dish, so there is some savings.

    My next buy will have to be an OTA antenna. I haven't even starting looking for one. Any thoughts there?
    Depends on how a lot of factors: how far you are from the transmitters, line of sight, etc. Of course, in your area you have all those damn trees.

    Take a look at http://antennaweb.org and http://www.tvfool.com

    Also, http://lifehacker.com/how-to-choose-...-hd-1569752514

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    It depends for some reason on the location of the TV/computer in the house. In my study I get 112 mbps. Upstairs, the apple tv only gets 92mbps. It's likely due to the longer cable that runs upstairs. But either speeds are good enough.

    I've now got all connection points wired with RJ45 connectors and cat cables. I've got a free trial to Sling and Hulu. Both seem to work flawlessly, although the channel order in Sling will take some getting used to. In all, I'll be paying around $50/month although I could go cheaper if I wanted but I want Fox Sports and a couple other channels. I'm currently paying $125 with Dish, so there is some savings.

    My next buy will have to be an OTA antenna. I haven't even starting looking for one. Any thoughts there?
    I have an indoor antenna propped up on a step ladder outside on a corner of my house that no one can see. I haven't gotten around to putting something on my roof that's more permanent.

    It works fine, the wind can blow it down into the dirt and I still pick up all the channels except the Fox affiliate. The antenna sucked when it was actually inside, outside it works great.
    Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
    I have an indoor antenna propped up on a step ladder outside on a corner of my house that no one can see. I haven't gotten around to putting something on my roof that's more permanent.

    It works fine, the wind can blow it down into the dirt and I still pick up all the channels except the Fox affiliate. The antenna sucked when it was actually inside, outside it works great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    Depends on how a lot of factors: how far you are from the transmitters, line of sight, etc. Of course, in your area you have all those damn trees.

    Take a look at http://antennaweb.org and http://www.tvfool.com

    Also, http://lifehacker.com/how-to-choose-...-hd-1569752514

    The electrical engineer in me likes the Yagi UHF style of antenna but your wife my not like that thing on your roof.
    My antenna will go in my attic. I've got a ton of room in there and I'm sure my HOA would get mad at anything on my roof. I've found some really ugly ones that are huge (like 4 feet wide) but it doesn't really matter when it sits in a place that no one but the AC guy sees. I've also learned through your links that I can get not only the Houston channels, but I will likely also get some channels from College Station
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    Quote Originally Posted by old_gregg View Post
    That's my reaction to your logic of buying a TV without a tuner just to save a $100 on a PoS black friday Vizio.
    Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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    Btw Moliere, I assume you're not an idiot and think that I'm suggesting to set up an antenna on a step ladder as a long term solution. Just wanted to get that out there.

    For the dummies that can't read in between the lines, it seems like any configuration in the Houston area will work if my lazy solution that I came up with a few weeks ago can work.
    Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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    I've had a TV antenna in the rafters of my garage for years. Works great.

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    What do you use for DVR when cutting the cord? I know there are options out there, but I haven't seen any in action in person. Of course, I still grumble over the Time Warner DVR and how poorly it compares to my 13-year old Tivo.
    I have nothing else to say at this time.

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    I've like tablotv so far. It's UI is a little clunky, but it works. I don't use it for live tv because of the UI. I think I've heard that TiVo is planning on releasing a competing service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
    That's my reaction to your logic of buying a TV without a tuner just to save a $100 on a PoS black friday Vizio.
    bro nobody gives a shit about tuners that isn't in serious poverty. and who bought a vizio tv? and what would be wrong with that? keep adjusting the rabbit ears so there isn't too much static on your bob ross reruns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by old_gregg View Post
    bro nobody gives a shit about tuners that isn't in serious poverty. and who bought a vizio tv? and what would be wrong with that? keep adjusting the rabbit ears so there isn't too much static on your bob ross reruns.
    You clearly don't give a shit about punctuation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaka View Post
    You clearly don't give a shit about punctuation.
    if you even had any idea how dumb you are
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    Quote Originally Posted by old_gregg View Post
    if you even had any idea how dumb you are

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    I know this thread is about cutting the cord... but TV attenaes? Attnenas have been passe' so long that my spell check doesn't even know how to spell antena.

    I've been proudly corded for 25 years.

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    More like, what's old is new again. With the digital signal, antennas are great. Better picture than cable or satellite. No rabbit ear adjustments required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beefytee View Post
    More like, what's old is new again. With the digital signal, antennas are great. Better picture than cable or satellite. No rabbit ear adjustments required.
    Really? I thought there was a signal fade a few years ago... I guess that's a analog signal.... so digital signals are still in vogue? How many stations do you get with a digital signal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by clackamascoug View Post
    Really? I thought there was a signal fade a few years ago... I guess that's a analog signal.... so digital signals are still in vogue? How many stations do you get with a digital signal?

    Around 40 stations with about 15 which are watchable (I.e. In English and not shopping or religious channels).

    http://mrantenna.com/saltlakecity/salt-lake-channels/

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