New BYU rankings out

[Brian]

Las Cruces is a pretty cool city.
And what are you going to pick in NM? ABQ?????????

[falafel]

Euphemism?

[/falafel]

[YOhio]

This mess of an article ends so hilariously beautiful.

There are roughly 180,000 BYU alumni and 140,000 U alumni on LinkedIn. Of these, 95,000 BYU alumni and 88,000 U alumni live in the Salt Lake City or Provo area. If we take the proportion of the number of BYU and U alumni that work at various top technology companies, we get a striking result. The results imply that many of Utah’s largest companies have a disproportionate amount of BYU alumni in their workforce. For example, Vivint Smart Home Company has 164 U employees and 514 BYU employees, meaning over 70% of the employees at Vivint with LinkedIn profiles are BYU alumni. Indeed, many of Utah’s top technology companies have more BYU employees according to LinkedIn — Adobe at 70%, Qualtrics at 81%, Domo Inc. at 74%, Lucid at 68%, Podium at 69%, Ancestry at 75%, Adobe at 70% and Entrata at 80%. These percentages even account for the greater number of BYU LinkedIn profiles by weighting the proportions accordingly.

Many factors could account for this disparity in employment at these companies. First, LinkedIn is not an explicit way to get employment statistics. I would argue that LinkedIn is widely adopted and that keeping one’s LinkedIn profile up to date is necessary. However, therefore the data is a good random sample of employees at a particular company. Second, the locality of a lot of these businesses are in the Provo, Draper and Lehi area — 58% of U alumni live in Salt Lake City while 85% of BYU alumni live in Provo. I would argue that Provo and Lehi are not a burdensome commute when weighed against the opportunity to have a career at a top technology company. Third, perhaps the level of education at BYU is so high that employers to prefer to hire their graduates because they statistically outperform U graduates. I would argue that a U alum who doesn’t serve an LDS mission will have two years more of professional work experience over a BYU alum who instead served a mission. If both students were of equal age, then the U graduate would be the more desirable candidate.

A more insidious conclusion could be drawn for the disparity of employment at preeminent top technology companies. Six of the eight founders of the previously mentioned companies were founded by BYU alumni. This predominantly BYU-dominated management could develop into a BYU-dominated work environment. More importantly, the prejudicial assumptions about a U alum could affect a BYU-dominate company’s hiring practices. Would you vouch for a prospective employee from the U over a prospective employee from BYU if your entire network is dominated by BYU alumni? Do companies see the U as a negative mark over a BYU graduate at these universities due to the cultural bias related to the U in Latter-day Saint culture? If I had to guess, every time an employer asks if you went on a mission or “why you choose the U over BYU,” these questions aren’t harmless. They are indicative of a culture in which academic nepotism and bias will influence our career outcomes as U graduates.

[Bo Diddley]

This mess of an article ends so hilariously beautiful.

It was obvious this was a Utah graduate from the beginning. The references to the 'U' made me chuckle.

[Donuthole]

This mess of an article ends so hilariously beautiful.

That is a delicious article.

[Uncle Ted]

This mess of an article ends so hilariously beautiful.

LOL. Of course there is nepotism in hiring by BYU founded and very successful tech companies. When we had a tech company in the UV we hired mainly from the BYU grad pool as well (I would guess about 90%). Who wants to hire those heathens from the North? BYU grads... They're the best!



As for Utah grads... I'm a little bit concerned about their salvation and stuff.

[old_gregg]

academic nepotism

[ScoopJahoop]

However, therefore what if he’s explicitly right?

[swampfrog]

...perhaps the level of education at BYU is so high that employers to prefer to hire their graduates because they statistically outperform U graduates. I would argue that a U alum who doesn’t serve an LDS mission will have two years more of professional work experience over a BYU alum who instead served a mission. If both students were of equal age, then the U graduate would be the more desirable candidate.

I would take the 2 year mission (or similar service) as a better (but different) "work" experience than anything accomplished in the first two years of a tech job. There are parts of mission life that can directly affect soft skill development.

Six of the eight founders of the previously mentioned companies were founded by BYU alumni.

That seems to be a data point that supports the hypothesis that BYU graduates statistically outperform U graduates? How many of those 6 served missions and/or learned leadership skills from that and other church service?

Weird article.

[BigPiney]

academic nepotism

That is the best.

[beefytee]

Way to go Idaho! BYU-I is the best school in the state for salary:

[CJF]

I’m surprised. I thought that welders and long haul truck drivers made more than that.

[BigFatMeanie]

We all know that BYU kicks butt but I have to comment on how horrible this infographic is.

The color scheme makes it nearly impossible to determine which schools are cheap and which are expensive. The school seals/emblems are so small you can hardly read them. The salary number can easily be mistaken for a cost number. When you need a complex legend to decipher the infographic, you know it sucks. The howmuch.net folks really whiffed on this infographic.

EDIT: They probably should have used school mascot logos or some other type of easier-to-identify logo rather than seals, but lame schools like THE (tm) Ohio State (tm) University (tm) and Texas (tm) would probably sue them so I guess I can't blame them for just going with the school seals.

[UVACoug]

This mess of an article ends so hilariously beautiful.

85% of BYU alumni live in Provo?

[Lost Student]

J.Rube ranking now in the 20s! US News just had to wait 15 years for the Lost Student stink to wear off the school before they could bump it up.

The U shouldn't feel too bad, they're right in that meaty part of the curve

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate...s/law-rankings