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Originally posted by wuapinmon View PostI can imagine swift legislation following to prevent companies with certain thresholds of employee numbers from having no full-time employees in order to avoid giving them healthcare.
This is a stupid move, inviting the government to increase regulation.
Also, Papa John's pizza tastes like glorified school lunch pizza, so avoiding buying them due to unfair labor practices (this is why unions can still be relevant) will be an easy task.
The steps taken by businesses to do this are the consequence of a shitty law that was forced on the citizens. Rather than increase regulation, perhaps the idiots who foisted this upon everyone ought to reconsider what they've done and repeal the shitty law."Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill
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Originally posted by Uncle Ted View PostThose that have never tried to run their own business can't understand such simple concepts. It requires too much thinking.
A small business owner has to pay for the health plan on both sides, and the employee doesn't see what it costs. All they see is what they pay, which goes up all the time as well.
I think we're in a lot of trouble.Will donate kidney for B12 membership.
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Originally posted by wuapinmon View PostThis is a stupid move, inviting the government to increase regulation."Seriously, is there a bigger high on the whole face of the earth than eating a salad?"--SeattleUte
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Originally posted by camleish View Postmany consider osha overly burdensome"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill
"I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader
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Originally posted by camleish View Postwhat is the cost of under/uninsurance? what about the cost of bankruptcy that results in significant part from medical costs? the incremental cost is not in the trillions.
Employers have never been required to provide a health plan. Until now.Will donate kidney for B12 membership.
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Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View PostI agree that many consider OSHA as such. But OSHA is about workplace safety, not forcing a business to provide health insurance for the employees. That's an apples to oranges comparison.
Originally posted by The_Douger View PostEmployers have never been required to provide a health plan. Until now.Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.
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Originally posted by camleish View Postboth are concerned with a business's obligations to an employee."Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill
"I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader
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Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View PostWhy is health coverage for a business an obligation?Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.
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Originally posted by camleish View Postboth are concerned with a business's obligations to an employee.
that is not a good argument. employers were not required to comply with osha until it was passed. that does not speak to its pragmatic worth as a law.
It is not, and has never been a business's obligation to provide a health plan. If they want to do so, that's their choice. This backbreaking legistlation is going to result in more unemployment and more people seeking reprieve through government entitlement programs.Will donate kidney for B12 membership.
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Originally posted by The_Douger View PostSure it is. Again, OSHA is about safety in the workplace. Laws are enacted to guard people's rights. Healthcare provided by your place of employment is not a right. Being safe in your place of employement is.
It is not, and has never been a business's obligation to provide a health plan.
This backbreaking legistlation is going to result in more unemployment and more people seeking reprieve through government entitlement programs.Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.
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Originally posted by Lost Student View PostAre you saying that Papa John's decision is stupid? All they are doing is reacting to the current situation to try to maintain profitability. What else would you have them do?
1. It makes me disinclined to ever eat there again (honestly, not that I'm missing much, the pizza is middling at best), and I can't be the only person to react this way to his statements.
2. This kind of attitude shows how very little he thinks of his employees. Papa John's is not a family company.
3. This is the kind of action that makes me believe that the rights of workers to bargain collectively should be honored.
4. This is precisely the kind of thing that could cause politicians to enact legislation to prevent owners meeting certain thresholds of employees from doing this kind of nefarious scheduling.
5. Is the reduction in hours really worth the increased HR costs of managing and scheduling and covering missed shifts of an extra 20-25% employees; losing business due to slow delivery times from higher employee turnover; and the crushing training costs of bringing that many more employees up to speed on the proper execution of their jobs with the concomitant high turnover that not offering full-time brings?"Yeah, but never trust a Ph.D who has an MBA as well. The PhD symbolizes intelligence and discipline. The MBA symbolizes lust for power." -- Katy Lied
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