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"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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Interesting article in Slate on OSC's political views. Holy cow, he is a nut.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/20..._personal.html
Predicts that Obama will organize "urban gangs" into his own secret police force.
Where will he get his "national police"? The NaPo will be recruited from "young out-of-work urban men" and it will be hailed as a cure for the economic malaise of the inner cities.
In other words, Obama will put a thin veneer of training and military structure on urban gangs, and send them out to channel their violence against Obama's enemies.
Instead of doing drive-by shootings in their own neighborhoods, these young thugs will do beatings and murders of people "trying to escape" -- people who all seem to be leaders and members of groups that oppose Obama.
http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2013-05-09-1.html
But wow, what a ridiculous thing to write in any context."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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Originally posted by SeattleUte View PostEnder's Game is a novel whose target reading audience is older children and teens. It's middle grade/YA. I'm sorry the other part of my statement came off the wrong way. But I do detect a suspicious kind of religious fervor among the novel's older admirers. I don't think you know the make up of beliefs or religious or social affiliations among majority age admirers of Ender's Game.
Personally, I greatly admire and have enjoyed the Ring despite Wagner's anti-semitism, and The Brothers Karamazov despite Dostoevski's anti-semitism and Russia superiorty complex, and War and Peace despite Tolstoy's wrong headed fielty to Russian royalty and noble classes. Time will tell whether Ender's Game has truly climbed to the pantheon of the classics from the realm of popular culture phenomenon such that its artistic value compels us to overlook its creator's massive flaws (actually, I've observed that outside their creations it's not unusual for novelists to be misguided).
However, I'm just stating a practical reality. In cinema PR counts for a lot. Apparently the audience has to admire at least the actors. Witness Mel Gibson's and Tom Cruise's free fall in their careers after their retrograde beliefs were exposed.
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Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostInteresting article in Slate on OSC's political views. Holy cow, he is a nut.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/20..._personal.html
Predicts that Obama will organize "urban gangs" into his own secret police force.
In fairness to OSC, he wrote the source essay as a "silly thought experiment".
http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2013-05-09-1.html
But wow, what a ridiculous thing to write in any context.
This is the column where I predict how American democracy ends.
No, no, it's just a silly thought experiment! I'm not serious about this! Nobody can predict the future! It's just a game. The game of Unlikely Events.
Just kidding. Because if I really believed this stuff, would I actually write this essay?
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Originally posted by Jacob View PostA little more context, from the cited essay, he begins with:
And ends with:
Seems a little unfair to then take what he said in between seriously."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostDid you read the entire essay? Including the long introduction? It is tough to tell when the real thoughts end and the "silly thought experiment" begins. The guy is a nut.
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Originally posted by Jacob View PostYes, it is quite the odd essay. I'm not a big fan. But when he starts and ends by telling us that he's not serious, why should we quibble? He says he was writing fiction. It's not satire, I don't think. Talking about eating babies would seem to be wrong in any context, as you say. This is not that, and is strange. But he didn't try to pass it off as anything other than fiction.
Free advice: If you are going to try to convince people that your lunatic thought experiment doesn't contain some elements of what you really believe, don't write a long, scathing diatribe as your introduction."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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Originally posted by mpfunk View PostHere is the problem even as a "thought exercise" there are racist elements that are frankly disturbing and demonstrate that OSC is a nutjob, not that we needed more evidence that he is a nutjob.Nothing lasts, but nothing is lost.
--William Blake, via Shpongle
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Originally posted by Harry Tic View PostOrson Scott Card is turning into the Jon McNaughton of science fiction.As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
--Kendrick Lamar
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I can't wait to see the movie. I'm probably going to eat at Chick-fil-a right before the showing."Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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Originally posted by Moliere View PostI can't wait to see the movie. I'm probably going to eat at Chick-fil-a right before the showing.
Sorry. Back now to OSC.Nothing lasts, but nothing is lost.
--William Blake, via Shpongle
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Originally posted by mpfunk View PostThat is pretty much a perfect description of him, except that I wouldn't say that he turning into it but that he is already there.
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OSC is a lot more prolific than I thought. The Ender canon has ballooned to at least 15 books now, and that's still a minority of his total output. Reviews seem pretty mixed on some of them. There are so many out-of-order Ender sequels I'm less likely to try to figure out which one to read next.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orson_...d_bibliography
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