Ender's Game movie

[SoCalCoug]

I don't know what people are expecting. It's not like the book is so awesome. I view it much in the same way I do Harry Potter; a compelling story with mediocre to adequate writing. It's a genre that can be difficult to adapt to the screen and it's not like Card gave them a whole lot to work with in the way of exciting dialogue. That it's not coming out this summer is telling enough. I think it will be about the same as the book, a solid B/B+.

I can't disagree with you more. Ender's Game is considered one of the great science fiction novels, particularly of the last 50 years. Harry Potter is not generally found in the discussion of the great fantasy novels/series, except as a preeminent young adult series. And it is lauded more for how it's introduced millions of young people to the fantasy genre, than it is for its quality. There really is no comparing Ender's Game to Harry Potter.

Orson Scott Card is considered one of the best science fiction authors of his generation; J.K. Rowling told an enjoyable story. Not to disrespect her, because Harry Potter is definitely a standard in fantasy, but she's no George R. R. Martin, Robert Jordan, or even Brandon Sanderson or Patrick Rothfuss.

[Katy Lied]

I fear this will be just another Hollywood attempt to 'help save the world' instead of entertaining us.

You realize this is directly from the book, right? That's what is so special about Ender; he's a third child. For his Mormon/Catholic parents to get permission to have a third child was indicative of how special the first two were.

it's not like Card gave them a whole lot to work with in the way of exciting dialogue.

You are stabbing me in the heart Pelle. You realize that Card is known for his dialogue, right? Especially family and kid dialogue? So he's not Henry James, it is still an awesome story.

[pellegrino]

You realize this is directly from the book, right? That's what is so special about Ender; he's a third child. For his Mormon/Catholic parents to get permission to have a third child was indicative of how special the first two were.



You are stabbing me in the heart Pelle. You realize that Card is known for his dialogue, right? Especially family and kid dialogue? So he's not Henry James, it is still an awesome story.

I mean no ill will, KT. It's been a long while. I just don't remember being impressed with the dialogue. I do remember some of Ender's lines to go over like lead balloons. Sorry, maybe I should read it again.

[Northwestcoug]

Ok, I guess I should finally read the book now. I bought it at Powell's 2 years ago and haven't touched it.

[wuapinmon]

I liked the trailer and the book. I will be there with my oldest on opening weekend.

[Moliere]

http://skipendersgame.com/



And OSC responds:

"Ender's Game is set more than a century in the future and has nothing to do with political issues that did not exist when the book was written in 1984.
With the recent Supreme Court ruling, the gay marriage issue becomes moot. The Full Faith and Credit clause of the Constitution will, sooner or later, give legal force in every state to any marriage contract recognized by any other state.
Now it will be interesting to see whether the victorious proponents of gay marriage will show tolerance toward those who disagreed with them when the issue was still in dispute."

[lambdacoug]

http://skipendersgame.com/



And OSC responds:

I'm really looking forward to this movie despite the fact OSC will get money from it.

OSC is Class A-1 ass. I hate that that asshat wrote such a good story as Ender's Game. I just hope they don't make the rest of the Ender series into movies...

[The_Douger]

They'll make them all in to movies.

[SeattleUte]

The book has been a cult classic whose reading audience is primarily adolescents and others who share Card's world view. If the film is to be a mainstream success it has some PR challenges. Apparently Card has renounced his opposition to gay marriage and homophobic hate speech and is urging his enemies to display their "tolerance" by going to the EG film.

http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/...-card-boycott/

[Moliere]

The book has been a cult classic whose reading audience is primarily adolescents and others who share Card's world view. If the film is to be a mainstream success it has some PR challenges. Apparently Card has renounced his opposition to gay marriage and homophobic hate speech and is urging his enemies to display their "tolerance" by going to the EG film.

http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/...-card-boycott/

Although I don't see where he renounces his stance, if he did it would be just like Obama who renounced his anti-gay stance right before the election.

I think it's a silly boycott but then again, I think most boycotts are silly. It's like all those people that avoid Chick-fil-a because the owner gives money to pro-traidiotnal-family institutions. If we spend our life boycotting things on such silly premises we'll miss out on most of life.

I also wonder why such progressive people as Harrison Ford would participate in such a movie.

[Maximus]

I'm really looking forward to this movie despite the fact OSC will get money from it.

OSC is Class A-1 ass. I hate that that asshat wrote such a good story as Ender's Game. I just hope they don't make the rest of the Ender series into movies...

How is OSC an ass again?

[Harry Tic]

The book has been a cult classic whose reading audience is primarily adolescents and others who share Card's world view.

This statement is either false or vacuous, but perhaps it was cathartic in some way to type that series of words in that particular order. Historically, most readers of OSC, I would wager, haven't given a damn about his 'world view' or even known what it is (of course this doesn't go for his Mormon readers, who, SU would probably be astounded to learn, are not in the majority). And if they have, they have probably dismissed it as irrelevant to his work.

As for the more substantial point about OSC's plea for 'tolerance,' it is kind of pathetic, but not in the way the article suggests. It is pathetic that one should feel an obligation to either toe the line on some given cultural issue or to shut the hell up. And it is more pathetic still to argue that a reader or viewer must scrutinize an author's work beforehand to make sure that they antecedently agree with his or her views on the social issues of the day. Of course this kind of Victorianism has long been an operating premise for most LDS consumers of media. To see it gain a greater foothold in our culture is distressing.

[Katy Lied]

OSC is Class A-1 ass. I hate that that asshat wrote such a good story as Ender's Game.

Why is he an ass? Because he used to disagree with you over gay rights? Do you hate everyone who disagrees with you?

Why is OSC seen as a hypocrite over gay issues? Does he not have the right to change his mind, like oh, 98% of the american public? Why wouldn't his change of mind be welcomed?

I am also interested to see if the same folks who asked for tolerance for decades will now get out their pitchforks and torches.

[lambdacoug]

How is OSC an ass again?

Because he's not nice and because I have this uncanny knack of putting my foot in my mouth?

[Jeff Lebowski]

This statement is either false or vacuous, but perhaps it was cathartic in some way to type that series of words in that particular order. Historically, most readers of OSC, I would wager, haven't given a damn about his 'world view' or even known what it is (of course this doesn't go for his Mormon readers, who, SU would probably be astounded to learn, are not in the majority). And if they have, they have probably dismissed it as irrelevant to his work.

As for the more substantial point about OSC's plea for 'tolerance,' it is kind of pathetic, but not in the way the article suggests. It is pathetic that one should feel an obligation to either toe the line on some given cultural issue or to shut the hell up. And it is more pathetic still to argue that a reader or viewer must scrutinize an author's work beforehand to make sure that they antecedently agree with his or her views on the social issues of the day. Of course this kind of Victorianism has long been an operating premise for most LDS consumers of media. To see it gain a greater foothold in our culture is distressing.