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    I listen to my music through my Ipod, my car speakers and my computer. Yesterday I put to use my old speakers and the music sounded so deep and rich I forgot what I was missing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RC Vikings View Post
    I listen to my music through my Ipod, my car speakers and my computer. Yesterday I put to use my old speakers and the music sounded so deep and rich I forgot what I was missing.
    I love that feeling!

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    Speaker question: I upgraded my TV recently and, while I am thrilled with the picture, I don't love the sound. I've decided to pick up a modest sound bar/woofer/satellite speaker combo. I'm looking at this Vizio set, which I've found online for $199. My question is, if I set this system up, will I be limited to controlling its volume with the remote that comes with the system? IOW, is there a way to install it such that the TV volume controls the surround sound volume when it's on? I only ask because I hate having multiple remote controls, but I'm probably still a few years off before I invest in a whole-home entertainment package with a master remote, etc.

    Does anyone know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donuthole View Post
    Speaker question: I upgraded my TV recently and, while I am thrilled with the picture, I don't love the sound. I've decided to pick up a modest sound bar/woofer/satellite speaker combo. I'm looking at this Vizio set, which I've found online for $199. My question is, if I set this system up, will I be limited to controlling its volume with the remote that comes with the system? IOW, is there a way to install it such that the TV volume controls the surround sound volume when it's on? I only ask because I hate having multiple remote controls, but I'm probably still a few years off before I invest in a whole-home entertainment package with a master remote, etc.

    Does anyone know?
    Impossible to say without knowing your TV brand and model. Some devices are starting to come with remotes that can control other devices. Dish Hopper and Joey remotes do this for example.

    If it doesn't, you can pick up a universal remote for $20 or so. Won't have all the bells and whistles of something like a Logitech Harmony but for what you're doing you don't need all that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donuthole View Post
    Speaker question: I upgraded my TV recently and, while I am thrilled with the picture, I don't love the sound. I've decided to pick up a modest sound bar/woofer/satellite speaker combo. I'm looking at this Vizio set, which I've found online for $199. My question is, if I set this system up, will I be limited to controlling its volume with the remote that comes with the system? IOW, is there a way to install it such that the TV volume controls the surround sound volume when it's on? I only ask because I hate having multiple remote controls, but I'm probably still a few years off before I invest in a whole-home entertainment package with a master remote, etc.

    Does anyone know?
    Don't know for sure, but apparently some people got their Vizio soundbars to work with their existing universal remotes (link includes some codes that may or may not be of use to you):

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    Quote Originally Posted by FMCoug View Post
    Impossible to say without knowing your TV brand and model. Some devices are starting to come with remotes that can control other devices. Dish Hopper and Joey remotes do this for example.

    If it doesn't, you can pick up a universal remote for $20 or so. Won't have all the bells and whistles of something like a Logitech Harmony but for what you're doing you don't need all that.

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    I have Vizio's 2014 E model SmartTV. And I have the Hopper. However, on my prior TV (also a Vizio) I could never get the Dish remote to change inputs on the TV, requiring me to use the Vizio remote for that. I haven't yet programmed my new TV into my Dish remote, but hopefully when I do I can make the soundbar work, too. Thanks.
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    Do those work? Reviews are mixed. My FIL had one and he was always having problems with it. Eventually he gave up and went back to having 5 remotes on his chair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donuthole View Post
    I have Vizio's 2014 E model SmartTV. And I have the Hopper. However, on my prior TV (also a Vizio) I could never get the Dish remote to change inputs on the TV, requiring me to use the Vizio remote for that. I haven't yet programmed my new TV into my Dish remote, but hopefully when I do I can make the soundbar work, too. Thanks.

    Do those work? Reviews are mixed. My FIL had one and he was always having problems with it. Eventually he gave up and went back to having 5 remotes on his chair.
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    I just bought an LG TV and the picture was fantastic and the sound was terrible. I bought a $200 LG soundbar with wireless subwoofer and it is great! Integrates with the tv so it automatically turns on and off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    I just bought an LG TV and the picture was fantastic and the sound was terrible. I bought a $200 LG soundbar with wireless subwoofer and it is great! Integrates with the tv so it automatically turns on and off.
    I'm hoping this one will do the same, since it's a new Vizio Smart TV and a Vizio sound bar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donuthole View Post
    I have Vizio's 2014 E model SmartTV. And I have the Hopper. However, on my prior TV (also a Vizio) I could never get the Dish remote to change inputs on the TV, requiring me to use the Vizio remote for that. I haven't yet programmed my new TV into my Dish remote, but hopefully when I do I can make the soundbar work, too. Thanks.

    Do those work? Reviews are mixed. My FIL had one and he was always having problems with it. Eventually he gave up and went back to having 5 remotes on his chair.
    I just got my whole system hooked up as noted in the media center thread. I am using this guy

    It works like a charm. It runs from that base you see there, so the remote transmits to it via some kind of blue tooth and everything shuts on or off in order. The reason I mention the base is because in former iterations you would have to maintain 'eye contact' so to speak between the remote and the various apparati. One button and it flips on my projector, amp, and xbox(it also controls the xbox, which is nice for surfing netflix, too). You can program up to six functions/sequences on the thing- more than enough, I think. Also, you can load the remote onto your phone or tablet, but the simple remote it comes with is extremely easy and effective. And your mom could set it up. I love it.

    *I recently talked to an old roommate who picked this up and is a hyper-vigilant technology snob and it won his seal of approval too, which is no mean feat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commando View Post
    I just got my whole system hooked up as noted in the media center thread. I am using this guy

    It works like a charm. It runs from that base you see there, so the remote transmits to it via some kind of blue tooth and everything shuts on or off in order. The reason I mention the base is because in former iterations you would have to maintain 'eye contact' so to speak between the remote and the various apparati. One button and it flips on my projector, amp, and xbox(it also controls the xbox, which is nice for surfing netflix, too). You can program up to six functions/sequences on the thing- more than enough, I think. Also, you can load the remote onto your phone or tablet, but the simple remote it comes with is extremely easy and effective. And your mom could set it up. I love it.

    *I recently talked to an old roommate who picked this up and is a hyper-vigilant technology snob and it won his seal of approval too, which is no mean feat.
    What are you running with it? Any satellite devices or cable, or did you cut the cord?
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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    What are you running with it? Any satellite devices or cable, or did you cut the cord?
    IIRC, Commando hasn't had satellite or cable for a long time. The Harmony has tons of problems with satellite receivers, if the reviews are to be believed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    What are you running with it? Any satellite devices or cable, or did you cut the cord?
    I'm cable-free, but it is compatible with any dvr/cable/satellite device. I mean, it can sync to and control a wii for pete's sake.

    On another note, the real star of my system is the amp/receiver I have. Everything runs through it; it has 6 HDMI inputs, and right now I just have the Wii U, Xbox 360, and a Chromecast plugged into it (along with a record player). I'm planning on getting a bluray/3D player too, but that's it. The nice thing about it is I have an ethernet cord plugged directly into it and I can surf internet radio, and it's Airplay compatible as well, so I can stream itunes from my laptop or itunes or spotify from my phone. Makes me wish I spent more time listening to music in my livingroom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donuthole View Post
    IIRC, Commando hasn't had satellite or cable for a long time. The Harmony has tons of problems with satellite receivers, if the reviews are to be believed.
    That may be. You're right- I can't speak too much to that side of things b/c I've been Netflix/hulu/amazon prime for a while now. It seems like more and more apps keep getting released that make cable a non-essential thing. There's even an A&E app on xbox. Sports programming is the last holdout until Comcast goes all Blockbuster on us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donuthole View Post
    IIRC, Commando hasn't had satellite or cable for a long time. The Harmony has tons of problems with satellite receivers, if the reviews are to be believed.
    I have had mine for 3 years. Works great with my DirecTV HD DVR, Yamaha receiver, and Sony Bluray player. Also love that it is rechargable, so I don't have to worry about AAA batteries on 3 or 4 remotes. If it were to die, I would order another in an instant, my wife would never be able to watch TV or movies in our basement without it.

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    Got this all set up tonight, and it automatically integrated with my TV. Works perfectly and sounds great. I spent this morning building a shelf/stand so the sound bar can sit below the TV on my entertainment center. It turned out pretty well, and I was able to match the stain almost perfectly. Note my awesome painting table.
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    Wow. Very nicely done.
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    Looks nice DH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
    Looks nice DH.

    Commando I had that harmony phone remote at our old house, I left it when we moved. I'm not a tech snob, but I am a "Things need to work, and work all the time snob" and that item didn't pass the test.
    Really? What happened?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commando View Post
    Really? What happened?
    App crashed all the time on iPhone and iPad, the remote that came with worked fine but functionality was limited. Very frustrating, I basically didn't watch tv outside of football the last two months on our house. Sadly I was no more productive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
    App crashed all the time on iPhone and iPad, the remote that came with worked fine but functionality was limited. Very frustrating, I basically didn't watch tv outside of football the last two months on our house. Sadly I was no more productive.
    Interesting. I haven't even bothered with the app b/c the remote has worked just fine. But again, I don't have cable or satellite so I am unfamiliar with how functional it is for that application.
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    Ditch harmony and go with control 4. Nice change of pace and they are local, to boot!
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    Technology is so amazing. With a push of a button, my iPad is paired with my new speakers, and I'm sitting here streaming from Spotify in full surround as I browse the internet. Loving this setup.
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    I'll be losing my surround sound when I sell my house next month. I have a Sonos Play 1 that I was hoping to build on, but just took a look at their stuff and just a sound bar and sub would put me back $1400. A friend of ours has their whole house set up with these things. Crazy.

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    We moved into a new house, which for audio purposes kind of sucks. We had a smart (at the time ~2007) wired system that sent audio to three different areas, one of which was outdoors. We also had a 5.1 system in the TV room. I loved it, but all of these are staying for the new owner

    The 'new' house is older and not wired for anything. I am bringing three sonos speakers, which are in the master bedroom and kitchen/living room area. I don't have any additional audio for the new TV room or outdoor porch. Like Dwight was wondering (in 2015), I am considering building a Sonos system for the TV room. Maybe just starting out with a soundbar and subwoofer to see how that sounds, and then adding 2 One speakers if needed. But I also need to get something for the outdoor patio.

    For outdoors, I'm looking at getting the Sonos Connect amp, placing that in the crawl space near the deck, and wiring two outdoor rock speakers to it. Klipsch has some high-rated outdoor rock speakers. Since I'm already wedded to Sonos, I'm thinking this is the best option to keep streaming simple and available to all my speakers. I could get wifi or Bluetooth outdoor speakers, but it looks like most of those would need to be mounted on the outside of my house and need a nearby power outlet. And then I would need to worry about another streaming service option.

    Anyone have any experience with Sonos and outdoor speakers? Or outdoor advice in general? And has anyone bought a Sonos TV system since Dwight asked 3 years ago?

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    My DIY plan to install outdoor speakers died a quick death when I visited the local stereo shop. I fell for the Sonarray system. The very helpful salesperson brought over a demo kit and did a quick dirty 'install', so I could hear it at my place. I was blown away. I probably could have built my own system with rock speakers for a grand, but the salesperson also very helpfully gave a companion quote with just two rock speakers. Wouldn't you know it, the Sonarray system was 'only' a grand more than the rock speaker quote. H,L, and S.

    You can get Sonarray with either 4 or 8 speakers, plus a subwoofer. We typically congregate on our deck furniture, but there is also a hot tub on the opposite side. So of course the 4.1 system was out of the question!
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    The dome in the background is the subwoofer, and the one closest is one of 8 speakers. We have 3 speakers and the subwoofer next to our deck furniture. And an additional 5 speakers running the length of our deck. Here's 2 others near our hot tub:
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    This is still a work in progress. I'd like to plant some ground cover to at least make these speakers blend in with the landscape.

    If you get the full system (including the amp), it will set you back ~3,000. I know, real welder money. But we had an older amp sitting around, so that knocked off ~800 from the price. We have a Sonos Connect connected to the amp. We now have 3 stations with Sonos, and it really is the way to go.

    If you are an audiophile and want great sound outside, I assure you will be also blown away. There is no sound drop-off anywhere on our deck. Mrs. NWC knows I'm a snob with sound systems, and she jokes that I get a little, um, aroused, outside listening to the system. She's not far off from the truth...

    The subwoofer packs a decent punch, which allows us to play it lower and still get great sound. Mrs. NWC walked over to the neighbor and asked if he could hear it. At ~75% volume, he could hear it while he was outside. So it does a nice job of concentrating the sound to your house.

    Check it out:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northwestcoug View Post
    Installed Sonance speakers in the entertainment room we built a few years back (with an RBH sub)... great choice.

    We have two sets of wall-mounted speakers just outside the patio doors on our main floor and the doors that open to our deck on the 2nd floor, but the sound doesn't carry around to the side of the house where we have our in-ground tramp and a firepit/seating area (that we are installing this summer). I'm digging up a trench to pull some landscape lighting wire over to this new area and your project makes me think about dropping some speaker wire in the trench too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    Installed Sonance speakers in the entertainment room we built a few years back (with an RBH sub)... great choice.

    We have two sets of wall-mounted speakers just outside the patio doors on our main floor and the doors that open to our deck on the 2nd floor, but the sound doesn't carry around to the side of the house where we have our in-ground tramp and a firepit/seating area (that we are installing this summer). I'm digging up a trench to pull some landscape lighting wire over to this new area and your project makes me think about dropping some speaker wire in the trench too.
    Sweet expansion plans!
    Their indoor speakers look pretty good. I’m still leaning towards Sonos for the entertainment center, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northwestcoug View Post
    Sweet expansion plans!
    Their indoor speakers look pretty good. I’m still leaning towards Sonos for the entertainment center, though.
    Strangely enough, I just stumbled across this. Didn’t realize these were a thing.

    https://gizmodo.com/sonos-beam-is-a-...h-m-1827151416

    For the record, we kept with Sonos. Sound bar, sub and Play 1s. Sound it great when utilized. Which is unfortunately rare.


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