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    Let's see if my computer works better.

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    The Catholic Church must be true.


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    It's the end of religion as we know it (and I feel fine)

    http://www.salon.com/2015/05/16/the_...truth_partner/
    Fitter. Happier. More Productive.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TripletDaddy View Post
    It's the end of religion as we know it (and I feel fine)

    http://www.salon.com/2015/05/16/the_...truth_partner/
    Some of us have seen this trend emerging for a long time. The religions that are most literal in their interpretation of scripture will fall the hardest. What might save Mormonism is its plasticity, its ability to reinvent itself. It's been a lot of years now since Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon were moved to the basement of the SL Temple Visitors Center. I remember when the new, since decommissioned, visitors center was built and they had Lehi, Nephi, Mormon, etc. talking robots like Disneyland. Those days are gone forever. lol
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    This always reminds me of atheism:



    The queen, my lord, is dead.


    MACBETH


    She should have died hereafter;
    There would have been a time for such a word.
    To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
    Creeps in this petty pace from day to day
    To the last syllable of recorded time,
    And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
    The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
    Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
    That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
    And then is heard no more: it is a tale
    Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
    Signifying nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katy Lied View Post
    This always reminds me of atheism:



    The queen, my lord, is dead.


    MACBETH


    She should have died hereafter;
    There would have been a time for such a word.
    To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
    Creeps in this petty pace from day to day
    To the last syllable of recorded time,
    And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
    The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
    Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
    That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
    And then is heard no more: it is a tale
    Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
    Signifying nothing.
    L'Etranger by Camu brings out some similar thoughts, except the absurdity of existence gives it vitality.
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    Arian Foster comes out as an atheist, is struck down by a non-contact Achilles rupture just weeks later. Don't tell me there's no God!!!!

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13...-believing-god

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    Quote Originally Posted by CardiacCoug View Post
    Arian Foster comes out as an atheist, is struck down by a non-contact Achilles rupture just weeks later. Don't tell me there's no God!!!!

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13...-believing-god
    The fact he lasted this far into the season is a miracle in and of itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    The fact he lasted this far into the season is a miracle in and of itself.
    To be fair, the big guy was busy with the end of the Michigan/MSU game, among other things. Full plate.
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    Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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    After School Satan club holds Utah open house at Vista Elementary

    The After School Satan club has arrived at a Utah elementary school.

    The Satanic Temple, a group that describes itself as “an atheistic religious organization that uses the symbol of Satan to inspire civil justice”, said the decision to spread their message in elementary schools is in direct response to Christian groups who operate after-school clubs in public schools.

    The organization kicked off an open house Wednesday, according to the Salt Lake Tribune. The Tribune, media partner of KUTV, also spoke to Chalice Blythe, the chapter head in Utah of The Satanic Temple. The Tribune was denied access to the open house by the Granite School District.

    "We are nontheistic, we don't actually worship a literal Satan," Blythe said. "We're very aware that not everyone is going to understand what it's about. They'll see the word 'Satan' and just make assumptions."
    Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

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    "They'll see the word 'Satan' and just make assumptions."

    Well, yeah. That's what you want them to do. That way they'll realize the only way to keep Satan out of schools is to keep God out. I love these guys.

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    Yeah, nothing inspires me to fight for civil justice like the symbol of satan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Yeah, nothing inspires me to fight for civil justice like the symbol of satan.
    Baphomet, actually. This guy would love to explain it to you and Megyn Kelly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmzgohHHQh4

    *edit. Favorite line: "We see Satan as the symbolic embodiment of the ultimate rebel against tyranny."

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    Hmmmmm, I don't think it's going to be that popular with the kiddies.



    These people are loonier than Huckadope.
    Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

    For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

    Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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    Quote Originally Posted by myboynoah View Post
    Hmmmmm, I don't think it's going to be that popular with the kiddies.

    These people are loonier than Huckadope.
    This Utah group was on TV a couple of months ago. They came across as complete idiots. They also asked to have their faces obscured and the names kept secret. Seemed like a funny thing to do for a group interested in making some kind of public statement. Real courageous bunch.
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    That club has a great acronym...

    EDIT:
    They should invite these guys, too!
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    This is interesting:

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...-faith/517785/

    As we all know, Americans are moving away from organized religion and becoming more secular, especially millennials. What are the consequences of this? Interestingly, it has helped fuel the alt-right movement.

    the percentage of white Republicans with no religious affiliation has nearly tripled since 1990. This shift helped Trump win the GOP nomination. During the campaign, commentators had a hard time reconciling Trump’s apparent ignorance of Christianity and his history of pro-choice and pro-gay-rights statements with his support from evangelicals. But as Notre Dame’s Geoffrey Layman noted, “Trump does best among evangelicals with one key trait: They don’t really go to church.” A Pew Research Center poll last March found that Trump trailed Ted Cruz by 15 points among Republicans who attended religious services every week. But he led Cruz by a whopping 27 points among those who did not.
    Why?

    This one is going to give SeattleUte some cognitive dissonance:

    Establishing causation is difficult, but we know that culturally conservative white Americans who are disengaged from church experience less economic success and more family breakdown than those who remain connected, and they grow more pessimistic and resentful. Since the early 1970s, according to W. Bradford Wilcox, a sociologist at the University of Virginia, rates of religious attendance have fallen more than twice as much among whites without a college degree as among those who graduated college.
    Also:

    When conservatives disengage from organized religion, however, they don’t become more tolerant. They become intolerant in different ways. Research shows that evangelicals who don’t regularly attend church are less hostile to gay people than those who do. But they’re more hostile to African Americans, Latinos, and Muslims.
    Yikes.

    You ex-mos need to get back to church, pronto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    This is interesting:

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...-faith/517785/

    As we all know, Americans are moving away from organized religion and becoming more secular, especially millennials. What are the consequences of this? Interestingly, it has helped fuel the alt-right movement.



    Why?

    This one is going to give SeattleUte some cognitive dissonance:



    Also:



    Yikes.

    You ex-mos need to get back to church, pronto.

    Hrmm... not going to church doesn't have a lot to do with atheism besides not wasting time in church.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    This is interesting:

    Yikes.

    You ex-mos need to get back to church, pronto.
    Oh sure. Like I'm going to fall for the obvious hoax of the 'academic':

    Establishing causation is difficult, but we know that culturally conservative white Americans who are disengaged from church experience less economic success and more family breakdown than those who remain connected, and they grow more pessimistic and resentful. Since the early 1970s, according to W. Bradford Wilcox, a sociologist at the University of Virginia, rates of religious attendance have fallen more than twice as much among whites without a college degree as among those who graduated college.
    Nice try, church. Next time get more creative with the name of your 'academic'!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

    You ex-mos need to get back to church, pronto.
    I respectfully decline your invitation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpfunk View Post
    I respectfully decline your invitation.

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    Racist.
    Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northwestcoug View Post
    Oh sure. Like I'm going to fall for the obvious hoax of the 'academic':

    Nice try, church. Next time get more creative with the name of your 'academic'!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Seriously, I had to look it up several years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    Racist.
    I do hate white Christian males, you know the group that is the most discriminated against in our modern times.
    The crux of what has traumatized us about CUF/CG is that we thought they were our friends. And their identity as BYU fans turned out to be the most important thing to them. What empty lives! What a damning indictment of the LDS Church!
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    Dozens rally against Mormon church doctrines at mass resignation event



    Mike Norton — who is known as NewNameNoah and has posted online recordings of LDS temple ceremonies taken with hidden cameras — also objects to the policy. He said the church recently “doubled down” on the issue with a court brief supporting a Colorado bakery shop owner who refused to make a cake for a same-sex wedding.
    Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

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    Looking at the "crowd" pictures, I'm not sure they have a single dozen, much less "dozens."
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    The notion of not being rude and encroaching on what other people find edifying and enjoyable has given way to these peoples' narcissism. I can't comprehend getting up and lecturing people in Sacrament Meeting about the fact you like dudes and how there is anal, oral and sex involving butt plugs and dildos that the poor rubes out in the audience can scarcely imagine.
    Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
    The notion of not being rude and encroaching on what other people find edifying and enjoyable has given way to these peoples' narcissism. I can't comprehend getting up and lecturing people in Sacrament Meeting about the fact you like dudes and how there is anal, oral and sex involving butt plugs and dildos that the poor rubes out in the audience can scarcely imagine.
    There were a couple of sign-holders standing on the sidewalk outside the temple open house last week. It was raining all day with the temps in the 40s, so the poor SOBs were freezing and soaking wet. Standing around outside holding a sign all day sounds miserable in really nice weather; I can't imagine what a miserable cretin you would have to be to do it in that weather.
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    Yesterday, there was a coordinated effort to send pizzas to about 50 LGBTQ (who are LDS or have a background with the LDS church) as it was the 2-year anniversary of the policy. It was a nice outreach.

    I don't understand these types of protests. The church isn't changing by having ex-Mormons protesting policies or mass resignation events. It isn't worth the effort. It is worth the effort though to show love to those that were affected by the policy.
    The crux of what has traumatized us about CUF/CG is that we thought they were our friends. And their identity as BYU fans turned out to be the most important thing to them. What empty lives! What a damning indictment of the LDS Church!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mpfunk View Post
    Yesterday, there was a coordinated effort to send pizzas to about 50 LGBTQ (who are LDS or have a background with the LDS church) as it was the 2-year anniversary of the policy. It was a nice outreach.
    Er, what? Lol!
    Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

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