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"Yeah, but never trust a Ph.D who has an MBA as well. The PhD symbolizes intelligence and discipline. The MBA symbolizes lust for power." -- Katy Lied
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Originally posted by wuapinmon View PostWell, since they discuss those facts as limitations of the study and their conclusions, I'd disagree. As for your question about the meaning of magnitude, while it might mean that in an etymological sense of meg/magnus- and -tude (abstract noun suffix) = greatness, it's long been a synonym in scientific literature (especially astronomy) for size, and it's a straight synonym when discussing the "magnitude" of an earthquake. Now, you could make an argument that those uses (stars and earthquakes) are chosen due to the immense size/weight/energy of things being measured, but this is talking about effect size of marriage and religiosity on sexual satisfaction in a social science research paper. I'd say that small magnitude in those terms reflects on the magnitude (size) of the phenomenon being studied.
There was also this:
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Originally posted by tooblue View PostThen it has been edited, and reads much better for it. Is there really such a thing as a small magnitude?
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Originally posted by swampfrog View PostYes. Magnitude is a descriptor of size differential. It is often used to infer a "large" size, but that's not required. This can be conflated with the phrase "order of magnitude" which has a very specific meaning. It is exactly ten times greater."Seriously, is there a bigger high on the whole face of the earth than eating a salad?"--SeattleUte
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Originally posted by Katy Lied View PostI never knew that, having previously slung around that phrase indiscriminately. I've even said stuff like "multiple orders of magnitude..."Originally posted by Lost Student View PostI've always thought of it as meaning about ten times greater--not exactly.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_magnitude
I think LS's observation is true, the order of magnitude can be used in the sense of "about". But the about is bounded, it's not about 9x or about 11x--it's about 10x. Call it a precise "range".
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Originally posted by swampfrog View PostAs with all language, context matters. Some leeway is always given when measurements aren't precise also (like size of storms). If it's a scientific/engineering text when comparing the values of two measurements, the meaning is usually very specific.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_magnitude
I think LS's observation is true, the order of magnitude can be used in the sense of "about". But the about is bounded, it's not about 9x or about 11x--it's about 10x. Call it a precise "range".
Edit: But I agree w/ you that context matters."Seriously, is there a bigger high on the whole face of the earth than eating a salad?"--SeattleUte
"The only Ute to cause even half the nationwide hysteria of Jimmermania was Ted Bundy."--TripletDaddy
This is a tough, NYC broad, a doctor who deals with bleeding organs, dying people and testicles on a regular basis without crying."--oxcoug
"I'm not impressed (and I'm even into choreography . . .)"--Donuthole
"I too was fortunate to leave with my same balls."--byu71
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Originally posted by tooblue View PostThen it has been edited, and reads much better for it."Yeah, but never trust a Ph.D who has an MBA as well. The PhD symbolizes intelligence and discipline. The MBA symbolizes lust for power." -- Katy Lied
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All this nitpicking over a phrase. Come on, guys. This is an area where even small magnitudes matter!"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
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Originally posted by wuapinmon View PostNo, it hasn't been edited. My first quote was from a different portion of the paper. The second one was almost at the end.
Again, in my opinion and in my experience, someone writing a social science paper doesn't just throw those terms in there willy nilly, or even merely to affirm effect size of marriage and religiosity on sexual satisfaction. The use of the terms strike me as more deliberate in their intent. Perhaps somewhere mentioned in the methodology the researchers provide more context and perhaps a citation to better explain the terms use?
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Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostAll this nitpicking over a phrase. Come on, guys. This is an area where even small magnitudes matter!Last edited by Clark Addison; 04-25-2019, 05:13 PM.
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