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Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
"The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by UtahDan View PostDoes she have a right to ask that? I don't know. She doesn't in my state. He pulls the tazer after the second request to get back in the car is not complied with. If she has a right to see that and he refuses, then I would probably change my tune. Though does she have a right to see it right then on her terms, or does he have to show it some time during the stop when he is ready? I don't know. I can agree that maybe a more experienced cop would have spent more time reasoning with her. Just keep in mind that when they train these guys they show them video after video of an officer getting killed while they are reasoning and cajoling someone. I've got more reason than most people to be skeptical of police and I abhor police brutality. But police are entitled to reasonable measures to keep them safe too. Requiring a person to stay in their vehicle and comply with basic commands that are officer safety oriented are something I think we can all agree are necessary.
So here after she doesn't comply with the second command, he can either take control of the situation and make sure she doesn't escalate it or he can keep rolling the dice on what she might do next. Like I say, maybe a more experienced officer de-escalates this, but I have really hard time asking someone to take that risk.
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Originally posted by Maximus View PostShe got back in the car. After she did, he should have just continued on like a normal human instead of then trying to grab her out of the car.Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
"The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by Maximus View PostShe got back in the car. After she did, he should have just continued on like a normal human instead of then trying to grab her out of the car.
The problem is, this mom-with-kids-in-the-car, got the ghetto treatment. I wonder if the same people who are crying foul in this instance would be equally upset if the woman were simply replaced by someone's whose appearance was more 'gangster.'
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Originally posted by Maximus View PostYou could say the same if she got back in the car the second he told her to.
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Originally posted by camleish View Postso it's necessary to refer to the officer as a "fat florida cop"?
Last edited by Indy Coug; 05-24-2012, 10:39 AM.
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I agree with Indy, it's smart to comply with cops. The problem I have with cops in these situations is their approach. You can't discuss, argue, or plead your case. There is no discussion, no give and take. They give you a command, if you still want to discuss, they give you the command again, louder and more forceful. Before you know it, you're facedown on the pavement over a speeding ticket. It's ridiculous. Too often cops are the ones escalating the situation. We need a touch more Andy Griffith in law enforcement."Remember to double tap"
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Originally posted by venkman View PostI agree with Indy, it's smart to comply with cops. The problem I have with cops in these situations is their approach. You can't discuss, argue, or plead your case. There is no discussion, no give and take. They give you a command, if you still want to discuss, they give you the command again, louder and more forceful. Before you know it, you're facedown on the pavement over a speeding ticket. It's ridiculous. Too often cops are the ones escalating the situation. We need a touch more Andy Griffith in law enforcement.PLesa excuse the tpyos.
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