Disgusting. There is absolutely no excuse for what these thugs with badges did. Asshole cop was looking for a fight. Like the dad said, his son was guilty of "contempt of cop". This was murder, plain and simple.
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Originally posted by UtahDan View PostIn my profession there is the expression "tie goes to the officer." Whether it is in a courtroom or an IA investigation and the only evidence is an officer's word against the criminal suspect's word unless what the officer is saying makes absolutely no rational sense he will be believed every single time. Officers who step over the line don't do it with you and me, they do it with people who no one will believe. They are unaccountable in those scenarios and just like all other human beings the temptation is too much for some of them.
Most cops are good cops in a few of them are bad. Same thing is true of lawyers. People are people.
I do agree with you that people are people. There are some bad ones that manage to obtain badges... They ordinarily don't keep them very long.
Good cops despise bad cops. They are a disgrace."We should remember that one man is much the same as another, and that he is best who is trained in the severest school."
-Thucydides
"Study strategy over the years and achieve the spirit of the warrior. Today is victory over yourself of yesterday; tomorrow is your victory over lesser men."-Miyamoto Musashi
Si vis pacem, para bellum
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Originally posted by Devildog View PostThe bolded part is just not true. Especially when the offenses are minor.
I do agree with you that people are people. There are some bad ones that manage to obtain badges... They ordinarily don't keep them very long.
Good cops despise bad cops. They are a disgrace."Yeah, but never trust a Ph.D who has an MBA as well. The PhD symbolizes intelligence and discipline. The MBA symbolizes lust for power." -- Katy Lied
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Originally posted by wuapinmon View PostCops have to be held to higher standards. If they can't handle have their every move scrutinized, they're in the wrong profession."We should remember that one man is much the same as another, and that he is best who is trained in the severest school."
-Thucydides
"Study strategy over the years and achieve the spirit of the warrior. Today is victory over yourself of yesterday; tomorrow is your victory over lesser men."-Miyamoto Musashi
Si vis pacem, para bellum
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Damn straight it's reverse racism. If a black man was beaten to a bloody pulp on video, along with the audio of his terrible demise:
1. This story would have made headlines back in July or August of last year, not this week
2. The level of scrutiny from media and various political factions would be so high that it would overwhelm the newspaper headlines and air time on television.
But since it was only a mentally ill white man, there's no danger of rioting, so it serves no purpose for the media and other ne'er-do-wells to stir the pot for their own nefarious purposes.
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Originally posted by Devildog View PostYou are more correct than you even realize.
I also support requiring college degrees for cops, ending the war on drugs completely, and harsher penalties for using a weapon in the commission of a crime."Yeah, but never trust a Ph.D who has an MBA as well. The PhD symbolizes intelligence and discipline. The MBA symbolizes lust for power." -- Katy Lied
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Originally posted by wuapinmon View PostFTR, again, I've written many times that I think cops deserve a sabbatical. Every 5-7 years, we should give them six months off to do absolutely nothing related to policing. And, yes, I'm willing to pay for it.
I also support requiring college degrees for cops, ending the war on drugs completely, and harsher penalties for using a weapon in the commission of a crime.I'm like LeBron James.
-mpfunk
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Originally posted by smokymountainrain View PostGood luck finding enough people with college degrees willing to be cops.
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Originally posted by Indy Coug View PostI have seen news stories about people turned down for being too intelligent. The explanation given is that they would be too bored by the monotony and lack of intellectual stimulation."Friendship is the grand fundamental principle of Mormonism" - Joseph Smith Jr.
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Originally posted by Devildog View PostThe bolded part is just not true. Especially when the offenses are minor.
I do agree with you that people are people. There are some bad ones that manage to obtain badges... They ordinarily don't keep them very long.
Good cops despise bad cops. They are a disgrace.
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Originally posted by wuapinmon View PostFTR, again, I've written many times that I think cops deserve a sabbatical. Every 5-7 years, we should give them six months off to do absolutely nothing related to policing. And, yes, I'm willing to pay for it.
I also support requiring college degrees for cops, ending the war on drugs completely, and harsher penalties for using a weapon in the commission of a crime.
No cops anywhere I know of, are going to be taking a paid sabbatical anytime soon. I would like to see somebody propose this though... The response would be funny to watch.
Originally posted by smokymountainrain View PostGood luck finding enough people with college degrees willing to be cops.
Originally posted by UtahDan View PostI have a great deal of courtroom experience to the contrary, but perhaps things are not the same everywhere.
Plain and simple. Good cops always try to weigh their actions, they know they are responsible to the citizens they serve, and they try to weed out their own ranks of those they feel, don't honor their responsibilities.
In spite of this, many citizens still view all police as thugs and that perception isn't true from my view."We should remember that one man is much the same as another, and that he is best who is trained in the severest school."
-Thucydides
"Study strategy over the years and achieve the spirit of the warrior. Today is victory over yourself of yesterday; tomorrow is your victory over lesser men."-Miyamoto Musashi
Si vis pacem, para bellum
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Originally posted by Indy Coug View PostSorry, but I don't live in fear of the police. I've run the numbers and the numbers also agree with my risk assessment.Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
God forgives many things for an act of mercyAlessandro Manzoni
Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.
pelagius
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Originally posted by Devildog View PostPlain and simple. Good cops always try to weigh their actions, they know they are responsible to the citizens they serve, and they try to weed out their own ranks of those they feel, don't honor their responsibilities.
In spite of this, many citizens still view all police as thugs and that perception isn't true from my view.
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