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    here is a good deal on paracord.

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    Also for Phat a stormproof lighter is going to be your best bet and unfortunately they are going to run at least $25 bucks.

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    What do you recommend? 50 ft or 100 ft?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FN Phat View Post
    What do you recommend? 50 ft or 100 ft?

    100 ft is the better deal.

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    Here's a decent deal for this 72-hr 2 person food kit. http://familystorehouse.net/index.ph...e_kit_72_hour/

    Use the site www.groopdealz.com to get the discount. What typically costs $72 plus $10 shipping is $46 shipped.
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    25% off everything today to celebrate Osama's death. Enter "suckit" at coupon code when checking out for the discount.

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    LA Police gear is blowing out some surefire flashlights


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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfah View Post
    Here's a decent deal for this 72-hr 2 person food kit. http://familystorehouse.net/index.ph...e_kit_72_hour/

    Use the site www.groopdealz.com to get the discount. What typically costs $72 plus $10 shipping is $46 shipped.
    Thanks for posting this. I just got the deal twice. Hopefully it will lighten the load in our backpacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach McGuirk View Post
    LA Police gear is blowing out some surefire flashlights


    http://www.lapolicegear.com/surefire-closeouts.html
    Some nice prices on the Surefires. I don't know that they're worth the price though. In our kitchen cabinet we have a P6 and C2. They're nice and built to last, but I like my Streamlight Night Com just as well. Based on your earlier post I have been checking out the Fenix line. They look very nice too.

    I am thinking of getting a bigger light though than some of these small pocket lights. I have seen some stuff out of China but I don't know about quality or reliability. Like this one:

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    Here it is branded as Ultrafire:

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    Anybody in the market for a cheap portable generator check this one out:

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    I ordered this knife the other day for EDC. It's freaking sweet. A bit big but I really like it. I also already cut myself with it.

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    Last night our bishop called an emergency ward council because our little rumble yesterday here revealed that we have no ward emergency communications plan. And with Irene possibly threatening this weekend we put our heads together for a few hours to put something in place.

    Anyway, we talked a bit about social media. The ward has a Facebook page. We were thinking of creating a Twitter account also. But we were also wondering about some sort of auto-dialer/sms text system like the local schools use whenever school is canceled. Most I am aware of are an add-on that can be pretty pricy and we're looking for free. Is anyone aware of anything like that?

    Also, what kind of emergency plans do you have in place? In California we used a green flag system. For example, when the Northridge quake happened I (being a strapping lad like Nephi) went with our Bishopric to every member's home in our ward. If they didn't have their green flag in a visible location on the front of their home (typically front window) signalling they were okay then we knocked to make sure everything was alright. Surprisingly most of the ward responded well to this and we only had to knock on a few doors. Some of those had forgotten, but a few others had significant damage including one family that had to be evacuated as their home's foundation split right down the middle and one half of their home was a good foot higher than the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfah View Post
    Last night our bishop called an emergency ward council because our little rumble yesterday here revealed that we have no ward emergency communications plan. And with Irene possibly threatening this weekend we put our heads together for a few hours to put something in place.

    Anyway, we talked a bit about social media. The ward has a Facebook page. We were thinking of creating a Twitter account also. But we were also wondering about some sort of auto-dialer/sms text system like the local schools use whenever school is canceled. Most I am aware of are an add-on that can be pretty pricy and we're looking for free. Is anyone aware of anything like that?

    Also, what kind of emergency plans do you have in place? In California we used a green flag system. For example, when the Northridge quake happened I (being a strapping lad like Nephi) went with our Bishopric to every member's home in our ward. If they didn't have their green flag in a visible location on the front of their home (typically front window) signalling they were okay then we knocked to make sure everything was alright. Surprisingly most of the ward responded well to this and we only had to knock on a few doors. Some of those had forgotten, but a few others had significant damage including one family that had to be evacuated as their home's foundation split right down the middle and one half of their home was a good foot higher than the other.
    I was the co-architect of our ward's emergency response plan. One of the first things we learned was that anything electronic is not a good idea for communication. Thankfully we learned this before Ike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikuman View Post
    I was the co-architect of our ward's emergency response plan. One of the first things we learned was that anything electronic is not a good idea for communication. Thankfully we learned this before Ike.
    Right. And this is something we worked on last night. But with something like a hurricane we have time before electronics go out. Our concern with Irene is that it is supposed to be here Sunday morning. And we're looking at ways besides having HTs and VTs calling their families to notify them of church being cancelled. Another example, every winter we have church cancelled at least once or twice due to snow where electronic communication won't be hampered. An automated system in these situations would be very beneficial.
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    Surfah,

    The New Orleans Stake President sent me this in September 2008.

    We have been using a system from a company called freedomvoice systems. There may be other better ones but it has worked pretty well for us (it doubles as voice mail for each ward/branch). It runs in my mind that in non emergency times it is around 40-50 dollars a month.



    In emergencies a one minute call across the stake is around $75 (1500 households)
    Hope that helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfah View Post
    Right. And this is something we worked on last night. But with something like a hurricane we have time before electronics go out. Our concern with Irene is that it is supposed to be here Sunday morning. And we're looking at ways besides having HTs and VTs calling their families to notify them of church being cancelled. Another example, every winter we have church cancelled at least once or twice due to snow where electronic communication won't be hampered. An automated system in these situations would be very beneficial.
    I think you need a two tiered approach - electronic and not. What we did is assign zone captains based entirely on geography (I am one). When we have advance warning of something, the zone captain contacts his/her zone (usually only five or six families) to make sure they are informed and see what their plans are (i.e., for a hurricane, will they evacuate). Then the captain reports back to the bishopric. Same story after a disaster except the contact may have to be made by foot (our ward is small enough geographically to allow this; yours may not) or by people with 4wd. This time it's about making sure people are okay and seeing what help they need (downed trees, etc.). Separately we have a database of who has what (trucks, generators, chainsaws, survival skills, etc.) and the bishop can allocate resources immediately.

    This worked relatively well after Ike. Some hiccups, but generally it functioned the right way, and we had everybody cleaned up and bailed out within a couple of days. After that we expanded our service to people outside of the ward, and we helped out neighbors of ward members at the same time we helped out members.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wuapinmon View Post
    Surfah,

    The New Orleans Stake President sent me this in September 2008.



    Hope that helps.
    Thanks. I'll look into that.

    Quote Originally Posted by nikuman View Post
    I think you need a two tiered approach - electronic and not. What we did is assign zone captains based entirely on geography (I am one). When we have advance warning of something, the zone captain contacts his/her zone (usually only five or six families) to make sure they are informed and see what their plans are (i.e., for a hurricane, will they evacuate). Then the captain reports back to the bishopric. Same story after a disaster except the contact may have to be made by foot (our ward is small enough geographically to allow this; yours may not) or by people with 4wd. This time it's about making sure people are okay and seeing what help they need (downed trees, etc.). Separately we have a database of who has what (trucks, generators, chainsaws, survival skills, etc.) and the bishop can allocate resources immediately.

    This worked relatively well after Ike. Some hiccups, but generally it functioned the right way, and we had everybody cleaned up and bailed out within a couple of days. After that we expanded our service to people outside of the ward, and we helped out neighbors of ward members at the same time we helped out members.
    This is exactly what we formulated last night. A few bishops ago in this ward we had a geo-code list with zone leaders assigned to each area within the ward. We basically resurrected that list last night by assigning 8 zones with two zone leaders for each. Our ward is a bit difficult as it has been designated the Single Adult ward so we have singles from all over the stake in our ward but we put those people on a list for the bishops in the wards they actually live in can check on them. It's very similar to the block captain approach we had in California.

    Thanks for your input.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfah View Post
    Thanks. I'll look into that.



    This is exactly what we formulated last night. A few bishops ago in this ward we had a geo-code list with zone leaders assigned to each area within the ward. We basically resurrected that list last night by assigning 8 zones with two zone leaders for each. Our ward is a bit difficult as it has been designated the Single Adult ward so we have singles from all over the stake in our ward but we put those people on a list for the bishops in the wards they actually live in can check on them. It's very similar to the block captain approach we had in California.

    Thanks for your input.
    We ran into the exact same problem with the Spanish branch, only in reverse. Several members lived in our ward but we didn't know who they were, so we had to do some sleuthing beforehand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikuman View Post

    Post-hurricane service is some of my favorite work.
    Amen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikuman View Post
    Post-hurricane service is some of my favorite work. It's the primary reason I own a chainsaw.
    Me too. I just wish there was more of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikuman View Post
    I was the co-architect of our ward's emergency response plan. One of the first things we learned was that anything electronic is not a good idea for communication. Thankfully we learned this before Ike.
    Other that shortwave/HAM radio, yes. Especially when the government has the "kill switch" on other forms of electric communication.

    http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...hone-shutdown/

    http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...h-legislation/

    BTW, you don't need a HAM license to own shortwave/HAM radios for receiving only. You just need a license to transmit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikuman View Post
    Post-hurricane service is some of my favorite work. It's the primary reason I own a chainsaw.
    Yes, I find sawing up trees to be very therapeutic. I have a chainsaw and will travel. My have pieces of wood from Oklahoma, New Orleans, and Houston in my clean up collection so far.
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    One of the things we learned yesterday is that even when you can't make a call on your cell phone because the lines are swamped you can still get online and post on Facebook on that same phone. There were several hours where that was true. Obviously that doesn't address a loss of power situation, but it was still a good thing to know. Gabers and I agreed that if phones fail, posting an "I'm okay" on Facebook would be the next step where possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    Yes, I find sawing up trees to be very therapeutic. I have a chainsaw and will travel. My have pieces of wood from Oklahoma, New Orleans, and Houston in my clean up collection so far.
    You're like Tom Sizemore with his beach sand collection in Saving Private Ryan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    Yes, I find sawing up trees to be very therapeutic. I have a chainsaw and will travel. My have pieces of wood from Oklahoma, New Orleans, and Houston in my clean up collection so far.
    The only problem (a major one) is when you get the guys who have no clue what they are doing going all macho with their chainsaws. I am
    surprised that nobody got killed last time we were out - a few guys had no concept of safety, kickback, not dropping oak branches on people's heads, etc. They are dangerous enough if you know what you are doing.

    Truth is that you really only need one chainsaw for every four guys. A good guy with a chainsaw can cut enough wood for three other guys to haul off without much trouble at all. But everybody wants to use the power tool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UtahDan View Post
    One of the things we learned yesterday is that even when you can't make a call on your cell phone because the lines are swamped you can still get online and post on Facebook on that same phone. There were several hours where that was true. Obviously that doesn't address a loss of power situation, but it was still a good thing to know. Gabers and I agreed that if phones fail, posting an "I'm okay" on Facebook would be the next step where possible.
    Yep. We've been told by the local guvmint that cells will be preempted by them. But data may work. It was that way last time.
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    It occurs to me that communication and checking on folks is a whole different matter when you are outside of Utah - or portions of Utah.

    Our entire ward is 16 blocks of neighborhood. That's it.

    Our stake has a FSR radio network - including folks in the stake and 2 members of each ward - for the stake to stay in contact with wards. Of course, I don't know how many of the bishops know this...

    Within each ward, the 6 members of the EQP and HPGL (minus secretaries) are assigned about 2 1/2 blocks each that they are responsible for checking on in case of emergency.

    At one point some envelopes were distributed that had a red ribbon, orange ribbon, and green ribbon in them. Red meant help me right now. Orange meant I need help, but it isn't critical. Green meant I'm OK, go help someone else. We have so many apartments in our ward and smaller homes that people are moving in and out of - I would be pleased if as many as a third of our ward members could actually find their envelope.

    That said - I've never heard much said about emergency preparedness or what anyone would do. I'm afraid that if houses are coming down, the EQP and HPGL will be worrying about their own hides and families versus chasing down one of the MANY older folks and single sisters in the ward to see if they're OK.

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    Special beginning to priesthood today with a timely reminder about emergency preparedness, followed by a lengthy list of things that we should do.

    It had zero mention of communication other than "checking on the families you hometeach."

    It wasn't the time or the place to bring up the impracticality of driving to check on families in a ward the size of Rhode Island. I'm going to send a carefully composed email to the bishop tomorrow with some friendly suggestions. This should make me popular.
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    This seems like a deal, but I don't know this brand. Can anyone tell me more?



    $699.99 after $200 OFF
    Champion 6,500 Rated Watts / 8,250 Starting Watts Portable Generator With Electric Remote Start
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    Quote Originally Posted by wuapinmon View Post
    This seems like a deal, but I don't know this brand. Can anyone tell me more?



    $699.99 after $200 OFF
    Champion 6,500 Rated Watts / 8,250 Starting Watts Portable Generator With Electric Remote Start
    Battery and Remote Included
    Item # 613063
    Don't know anything about the brand, but do you need something that big? Are you planning on running just the essetials, or do you want something that can handle more? Also you will want to make sure that you have a place to chain it to (a tree, a shed, a cement anchor) so that someone doesn't run off with it while it is running in the back yard.
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