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    Provo Mayor John Curtis wins the congressional seat vacated by Jason Chaffetz. Curtis is a moderate republican who used the new petition process to secure a spot on the primary ballot because he is not extreme enough to win by wooing delegates in the republican convention (that spot was won by Chris Herrod). During the campaign, he was often accused of being a liberal commie by the far right elements of the party but he enjoyed broad support in the general public and trounced Herrod in primary and won easily yesterday over the democratic challenger.

    His challenger was Dr. Kathy Allen. Just noticed this exchange this morning:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Provo Mayor John Curtis wins the congressional seat vacated by Jason Chaffetz. Curtis is a moderate republican who used the new petition process to secure a spot on the primary ballot because he is not extreme enough to win by wooing delegates in the republican convention (that spot was won by Chris Herrod). During the campaign, he was often accused of being a liberal commie by the far right elements of the party but he enjoyed broad support in the general public and trounced Herrod in primary and won easily yesterday over the democratic challenger.

    His challenger was Dr. Kathy Allen. Just noticed this exchange this morning:

    Wow, what a whiny condescending tweet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Provo Mayor John Curtis wins the congressional seat vacated by Jason Chaffetz. Curtis is a moderate republican who used the new petition process to secure a spot on the primary ballot because he is not extreme enough to win by wooing delegates in the republican convention (that spot was won by Chris Herrod). During the campaign, he was often accused of being a liberal commie by the far right elements of the party but he enjoyed broad support in the general public and trounced Herrod in primary and won easily yesterday over the democratic challenger.

    His challenger was Dr. Kathy Allen. Just noticed this exchange this morning:

    SL trib was reporting that she lost in SL county as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Provo Mayor John Curtis wins the congressional seat vacated by Jason Chaffetz. Curtis is a moderate republican who used the new petition process to secure a spot on the primary ballot because he is not extreme enough to win by wooing delegates in the republican convention (that spot was won by Chris Herrod). During the campaign, he was often accused of being a liberal commie by the far right elements of the party but he enjoyed broad support in the general public and trounced Herrod in primary and won easily yesterday over the democratic challenger.

    His challenger was Dr. Kathy Allen. Just noticed this exchange this morning:

    John Curtis is the guy with the sock fetish, right?
    Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

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    That's stupid! Utah county voters also care that their white males be Republicans.

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    I could have voted for Curtis based on what is on his website. Trump will not like this guy if he votes in Congress based on what he campaigned on.

    Good for Utah to figure out how to make it easier for non-crazy candidates to get on the ballot. Ultimately it should be a general election that sends reps to Congress, not some outdated silly delegate selection process where only the nut jobs care enough to take part in, combined with gerrymandered districts.
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    curtis for chaffetz is a great trade. i like curtis. he achieved cool stuff in provo
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    Quote Originally Posted by old_gregg View Post
    curtis for chaffetz is a great trade. i like curtis. he achieved cool stuff in provo
    Let’s wait and see if Chaffetz runs for governor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

    Good grief, if democrats are really this stupid, they will stay down for a long time.
    Many really are that stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hostile View Post
    Let’s wait and see if Chaffetz runs for governor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hostile View Post
    Let’s wait and see if Chaffetz runs for governor.
    Please, please no.
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    chaffetz could also make a senate run
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    Jeff Flake should move to Utah and make a senate run. That would be entertaining, if nothing else and might even goad the president into making anti-Mormon tweets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old_gregg View Post
    chaffetz could also make a senate run
    Welp, hopefully that will cause someone to do serious oppo research and not hold back on what they find.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frank ryan View Post
    Welp, hopefully that will cause someone to do serious oppo research and not hold back on what they find.
    What is Chaffetz connection to Russia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie View Post
    What is Chaffetz connection to Russia?
    not sure where she was from, but i don’t think it was russia
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    Quote Originally Posted by old_gregg View Post
    not sure where she was from, but i don’t think it was russia
    He killed five hookers in Texas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    He killed five hookers in Texas.
    The word killed needs to be changed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie View Post
    What is Chaffetz connection to Russia?
    Don't know, but I'm pretty sure there's a dossier on him somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frank ryan View Post
    The word killed needs to be changed.
    Haha. Yeah, that's probably it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Please, please no.
    Quote Originally Posted by old_gregg View Post
    chaffetz could also make a senate run
    Yeah, that Chaffetz character seems pretty popular in Utah... He won the last election with 73% of the vote. Major Curtis only got 57%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    Yeah, that Chaffetz character seems pretty popular in Utah... He won the last election with 73% of the vote. Major Curtis only got 57%.
    73% running unopposed is pretty bad.

    In all seriousness, an incumbent Republican congressman running in the most Republican county in the entire country getting 73% is really NOT that great. My congressman (Sam Johnson -- Texas 3rd district) is probably about 95 years old, should have retired 30 years ago, but can still get over 80% in his sleep in a district that is conservative but not as conservative as Utah's 3rd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueK View Post
    73% running unopposed is pretty bad.
    Running against a democrat in Utah County is the same as running unopposed. I think about the only democrat representative to come from there, that I can remember, was Bill Orton. I liked (and voted for) him.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueK View Post
    In all seriousness, an incumbent Republican congressman running in the most Republican county in the entire country getting 73% is really NOT that great. My congressman (Sam Johnson -- Texas 3rd district) is probably about 95 years old, should have retired 30 years ago, but can still get over 80% in his sleep in a district that is conservative but not as conservative as Utah's 3rd.
    Yeah, Johnson needs to retire... Didn't they already name a road (a stretch of US75) after him?
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    Kathie Allen is a bozo.

    I love how Dems in Utah run super unlikable and unqualified candidates and then complain about losing every election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CardiacCoug View Post
    Kathie Allen is a bozo.

    I love how Dems in Utah run super unlikable and unqualified candidates and then complain about losing every election.
    Politics is all local, as they say. Yes, the Utah democrats nominate flawed candidates. But who would run as a democrat in Utah if they weren't flawed? You start with an assumption that at least 40% of voters would never consider a democrat, and there is little margin for a democrat to win there.

    OTOH, Virginia just had a governor's race which featured the most milquetoast, unlikable, boring democrat and a fancy-pants repub lobbyist who embraced Trump. I had the misfortune of being constantly bombarded by their TV ads. The democrat won handily.And Virginia is not a flaming liberal hotbed (like DC). I'll wager that he would have gotten destroyed if the same race had been run in Utah. I think the results of election night, in general, are very bad for Trump/repubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Applejack View Post
    Politics is all local, as they say. Yes, the Utah democrats nominate flawed candidates. But who would run as a democrat in Utah if they weren't flawed? You start with an assumption that at least 40% of voters would never consider a democrat, and there is little margin for a democrat to win there.

    OTOH, Virginia just had a governor's race which featured the most milquetoast, unlikable, boring democrat and a fancy-pants repub lobbyist who embraced Trump. I had the misfortune of being constantly bombarded by their TV ads. The democrat won handily.And Virginia is not a flaming liberal hotbed (like DC). I'll wager that he would have gotten destroyed if the same race had been run in Utah. I think the results of election night, in general, are very bad for Trump/repubs.
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    My old boss was of the extreme flaming flaming democrat feminist group. She moved from SLC to Traverse Mountain back when they were just starting to build up there. Imagine her surprise when she discovered, around election time, that her home was actually on the Utah County side of the border.

    I had way too much fun razzing her about the elected officials that represented her - including Chaffetz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    Running against a democrat in Utah County is the same as running unopposed. I think about the only democrat representative to come from there, that I can remember, was Bill Orton. I liked (and voted for) him.



    Yeah, Johnson needs to retire... Didn't they already name a road (a stretch of US75) after him?
    Orton was a good dude. My view is he was a centrist that leaned a bit right. In those days that's what made you a Democrat in Utah County. Heck, it still might.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaka View Post
    Orton was a good dude. My view is he was a centrist that leaned a bit right. In those days that's what made you a Democrat in Utah County. Heck, it still might.
    I voted for him. At the time he was the only democrat I voted for. He was pretty moderate. He seemed like a good guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northwestcoug View Post
    I voted for him. At the time he was the only democrat I voted for. He was pretty moderate. He seemed like a good guy.
    He was a moderate, a good guy, and the republican running that year was a jerk. Perfect storm. Those are pretty much the only conditions by which a democrat could win in Utah county.

    Since Orton, we have had some jerks running (Chaffetz, IMO), but no moderate, appealing democratic candidates. We have also become more polarized as a nation, politically.
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