I love Utah politics

[Moliere]

I don’t really have an opinion on the church’s statement, but my own personal opinion is that MJ should go through the federal drug testing process and be regulated. If it’s not harmful then legalize and regulate it like alcohol.

From my anecdotal expierence, I’ve seen MJ ruin lives and marriages due to addiction from a good friend of mine that couldn’t kick the habit. But I don’t want to extrapolate that to everyone else.

[old_gregg]

From my anecdotal expierence, I’ve seen MJ ruin lives and marriages due to addiction from a good friend of mine that couldn’t kick the habit. But I don’t want to extrapolate that to everyone else.

lol knock it off

[Pelado]

I don’t really have an opinion on the church’s statement, but my own personal opinion is that MJ should go through the federal drug testing process and be regulated. If it’s not harmful then legalize and regulate it like alcohol.

Does your wife know that you want her to go through that process?

[frank ryan]

That would be good. Do we have some data showing that it reduces opiate addiction?

Depending on the intensity of someone's addiction, I'm generally not keen on them trying to shove their addiction onto marijuana. I've never seen it work out longer than a few months. I do believe there is some research out there that shows that using marijuana as part MAT can help, but it's not definitive.

There's also evidence hallucinogenics can help with opiate detox and post-acute withdrawal. I've seen some people do well after that provided they engaged in some outpatient care following that experience.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Did a little more research on the proposed medical MJ law in Utah. It is a joke. Doctors allowed to prescribe MJ would include "naturopathic physicians", dentists, PA's, etc. In other words, just about anybody - nothing at all like a medical prescription. It would also be exempt from state tax. This is not about medical cannabis. It is an attempt to get legalize MJ through the back door. No wonder it is facing opposition.

[Uncle Ted]

Did a little more research on the proposed medical MJ law in Utah. It is a joke. Doctors allowed to prescribe MJ would include "naturopathic physicians", dentists, PA's, etc. In other words, just about anybody - nothing at all like a medical prescription. It would also be exempt from state tax. This is not about medical cannabis. It is an attempt to get legalize MJ through the back door. No wonder it is facing opposition.

What? Utah wouldn't tax it?!? That's stoopid... Utah taxes everything that moves (or doesn't move).

[Jeff Lebowski]

What? Utah wouldn't tax it?!? That's stoopid... Utah taxes everything that moves (or doesn't move).

Ha. Utah is always ranked at or near the top in fiscal management. Typically way above Texas.

[frank ryan]

Did a little more research on the proposed medical MJ law in Utah. It is a joke. Doctors allowed to prescribe MJ would include "naturopathic physicians", dentists, PA's, etc. In other words, just about anybody - nothing at all like a medical prescription. It would also be exempt from state tax. This is not about medical cannabis. It is an attempt to get legalize MJ through the back door. No wonder it is facing opposition.

Can all those people prescribe opiates though?

[Jeff Lebowski]

Can all those people prescribe opiates though?

No.

[Eddie]

I visited with one of our legislators who is also a doctor a while back about this, and I thought he made some good points.

I agree with the church's statement that before simply approving medical marijuana it needs to go through the proper scrutiny that all drugs used for that purpose go through. But, as Funk has indicated - that means that some changes need to be made that will allow said testing and research to take place.

Why can't we start there? Why can't we push for the testing and research to happen instead of simply pushing for its use?

For the record - I'm going to go ahead and speculate that the church had a pretty well respected medical doctor review that statement before releasing it.

[Uncle Ted]

Colorado reported $500 million in tax revenue last year... and half of that went to their schools. (How much from Utahns taking "ski trips" to Colorado?)

There is a potential of $132 billion in tax revenue and 1 million new jobs in the next 10 years.

And Utah doesn't want to tax their weed...

[Eddie]

When I saw that this thread was bumped, I was hoping it was in relation to the Utah GOP drama that is currently going on surrounding "Count My Vote" and the caucus system.

There's been a pretty big todo related to some of the behind the scenes maneuverings.

You've probably heard that the Utah GOP was in serious debt due to this ongoing lawsuit challenging SB54 - which allows candidates to collect signatures rather than go through the caucus system. They were more than $400K in debt to the attorneys representing them in the lawsuit.

Enter Dave Bateman - nice guy who apparently agreed to be an intermediary and take on the debt. Of course, that isn't without strings attached. He negotiated with the attorneys and ended up paying them around $175K. But the agreement with the GOP is that if they don't continue to appeal SB54 all the way to the US Supreme Court, they'll have to pay back the entire $400K.

In the meantime - emails are now swirling from folks in the Davis Co GOP talking about a motion that will come up at convention to remove all of the Davis Co central committee members who are part of the "Gang of 51" and replace them with new central committee members. Along with competing emails talking about how the proposal has no merit and is contrary to bylaws.

Super entertaining to watch. I don't think you can make this stuff up.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Colorado reported $500 million in tax revenue last year... and half of that went to their schools. (How much from Utahns taking "ski trips" to Colorado?)

There is a potential of $132 billion in tax revenue and 1 million new jobs in the next 10 years.

And Utah doesn't want to tax their weed...

There are some pretty good arguments to legalizing pot, but generating tax revenue has to be one of the dumbest.

[falafel]

From my anecdotal expierence, I’ve seen MJ ruin lives and marriages due to addiction from a good friend of mine that couldn’t kick the habit. But I don’t want to extrapolate that to everyone else.

Sheesh, and I thought MJ was a good farmer's daughter from Oregon.

[SCcoug]

There are some pretty good arguments to legalizing pot, but generating tax revenue has to be one of the dumbest.

Don't argue with the "Libertarian".