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    A lot of optimism out of camp this year. Alex Smith is looking like a starting caliber QB, the defense looks as legit as it has been, Vernon Davis, Michael Crabtree ad Frank Gore seem to be the weapons that Smith has needed to succeed. Playoffs and division champs? Could a Super Bowl run be in the near future?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sizzle View Post
    A lot of optimism out of camp this year. Alex Smith is looking like a starting caliber QB, the defense looks as legit as it has been, Vernon Davis, Michael Crabtree ad Frank Gore seem to be the weapons that Smith has needed to succeed. Playoffs and division champs? Could a Super Bowl run be in the near future?
    Baring injuries, I think this team wins a minimum of 10 games. Could be a great season in the bay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sizzle View Post
    A lot of optimism out of camp this year. Alex Smith is looking like a starting caliber QB, the defense looks as legit as it has been, Vernon Davis, Michael Crabtree ad Frank Gore seem to be the weapons that Smith has needed to succeed. Playoffs and division champs? Could a Super Bowl run be in the near future?
    Near future as in 2011 or 2012? Maybe. This year, absolutely not. I think Minnesota and New Orleans are both going to be very good again this year.

    The 1st round o-linemen are going to require a year of experience. The o-line was average last year, and hopefully the draft picks shore up the o-line. I'm really hoping that Smith can at least be a mid-range starting QB. SF has the defense and skill position players to succeed if they only have an average QB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrumNFeather View Post
    Baring injuries, I think this team wins a minimum of 10 games. Could be a great season in the bay.
    I was thinking 10 games as well. I'm probably gonna be out of town for the MNF game against New Orleans, which is too bad. I have that game as a loss in my 10-6 record hopes.

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    Near future as in 2011 or 2012? Maybe. This year, absolutely not. I think Minnesota and New Orleans are both going to be very good again this year.

    The 1st round o-linemen are going to require a year of experience. The o-line was average last year, and hopefully the draft picks shore up the o-line. I'm really hoping that Smith can at least be a mid-range starting QB. SF has the defense and skill position players to succeed if they only have an average QB.
    I think Iupati has a chance to have an impact this year. Davis seems more like a project to me, with the talent potentially paying off big time. Still not sold though.

    I think NO and Min as well as Dallas will both be good this year. But after those three, I think SF falls into the next group of teams like Atlanta or the Giants that could be pretty good if they get all the pieces together. I think anything but the playoffs this year is a disappointment, and then moving forward make a legit run. With a solid young core, I see no reason why they can't.

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    Glen Coffee retires and the 9ers sign Brian Westbrook. If I'm a 49ers fan I'll take that trade.

    On Mike and Mike this morning they did the 49ers two-a-day. Greenie picked 12-4 and Golic picked 11-5 for their record.
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    Former Duck and current LDS Will Tukuafu got a sack in one of his first plays in the preseason the other night. Last night I met his wife and she said he is getting a good vibe about making the team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrumNFeather View Post
    Glen Coffee retires and the 9ers sign Brian Westbrook. If I'm a 49ers fan I'll take that trade.

    On Mike and Mike this morning they did the 49ers two-a-day. Greenie picked 12-4 and Golic picked 11-5 for their record.
    With the way Anthony Dixon ran Sunday, I think we will be just fine.

    12-4 seems optimistic. I think 10-6 is realistic, with 11-5 not out of the question. I'm stoked for the season, that's for sure!

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    With Crabtree and Gore on the bench, Smith leads a nice opening drive capped of by a Dixon TD run. 5-6 59 yards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrumNFeather View Post
    With Crabtree and Gore on the bench, Smith leads a nice opening drive capped of by a Dixon TD run. 5-6 59 yards.
    Dont forget Vernon Davis. Smith looked really good. If he can play like that consistently, SF will be in great shape.

    Also nice to see Patrick Willis welcoming back Brett favre. Hit him harder next time!

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    Drive two less impressive for SF. Though not Smiths fault. Run run/false start, run run isn't a good way to move the ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sizzle View Post
    Drive two less impressive for SF. Though not Smiths fault. Run run/false start, run run isn't a good way to move the ball.
    Alex Smith is looking great. The 49ers running game hasn't done anything, but without Gore and going against the Vikings, they couldn't have expected to move it on the ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sizzle View Post
    Dont forget Vernon Davis. Smith looked really good. If he can play like that consistently, SF will be in great shape.

    Also nice to see Patrick Willis welcoming back Brett favre. Hit him harder next time!
    With the division and the schedule (AFC West is one they play I think), this is a team that could host a playoff game or two if things fall right. Don't want to get ahead of mysef here, but the pieces seem to be there if Smith can get it done.
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    Ted Ginn is going to be great, I can just feel it!
    Well if Dolphin fans had their way, they'd have ended up with Brady Quinn. So yeah, that wouldve worked out well too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sizzle View Post
    I think Iupati has a chance to have an impact this year. Davis seems more like a project to me, with the talent potentially paying off big time. Still not sold though.

    I think NO and Min as well as Dallas will both be good this year. But after those three, I think SF falls into the next group of teams like Atlanta or the Giants that could be pretty good if they get all the pieces together. I think anything but the playoffs this year is a disappointment, and then moving forward make a legit run. With a solid young core, I see no reason why they can't.
    Aren't both Iupati and Davis slated to start as of now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGRTHNUMEGO View Post
    Aren't both Iupati and Davis slated to start as of now?
    So far through the two preseason games they've both started, and played fairly well. Being wrong on Davis and having him able to start from day 1 and not get killed would be great for SF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sizzle View Post
    So far through the two preseason games they've both started, and played fairly well. Being wrong on Davis and having him able to start from day 1 and not get killed would be great for SF.
    Both Davis and Iupati looked young in the first game. A lot of mistakes, but Seattle is a loud place to play your first real game.

    As bad as it sounds, I am somewhat hoping SF finishes out of the playoffs and lands a top-10 pick. I like the attitude Singletary has brought to the team and I still believe that he'll turn the team around. But man, Alex Smith is terrible. With guys like Ryan Mallet and Andrew Luck likely in the draft (do not get me started on Jake Locker) I think SF could be in great shape. I've wanted AS to succeed as he seems like a nice enough guy, took less money to come back to SF and try and make things right... but I just don't think he's the guy.

    It'll be interesting seeing how they play v. New Orleans on Monday. Even in winning, I wasn't overly impressed with the Saints. With tough games at Kansas City (who beat SD on Monday night at Arrowhead) and at Atlanta (who took them to the woodshed last year) an 0-4 start isn't completely unrealistic.

    Maybe it really is time to take the San Antonio Spurs approach to building a dynasty!

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    From an outsider's perspective (and an admitted Smith homer) the 49ers 0-2 looks a lot better than either Dallas or Minnesota. The 49ers really helped the saints A LOT with those boneheaded turnovers...the snap over the head, the muffed punt, and the two INTs. If they can cut those down, they've got a chance to turn this thing around. They still play in a fairly weak division and have a decent schedule (home game in London aside).

    Sizzle & others, are you encouraged by what you saw last night? Discouraged? Meh?
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    I was actually encouraged. It was one of the few times I remember, that I have watched Smith in a 49ers uni and been really impressed. At the end of the gave he looked like a winner.

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    Smith looked good last night and he was smiling on the sidelines. He's gaining confidence. I wrote him off last week and I'll stick by that until he can put a couple more good performances together.

    The Niners committed FOUR turnovers compared to none from the Saints. It's amazing that they were in that game until the end.

    The Niners have three first round draft picks and two second round draft picks on the line. They have a first round draft pick at receiver and another first round pick at tight end. Alex Smith was the overall #1. Frank Gore would have been a first round pick if he hadn't blown out his knee twice in college- everyone else's loss was the Niners gain in the fourth round. None of these guys look like busts yet (Smith has come very close) and they could become very good.

    Gore average over 5.5 yards a carry last night and he received a lot of Smith's passes. Davis played well. Crabtree needs to come along some more. I think the o-line did an admirable job last night, that group will only get better. Smith is going to have to get more in tune with the WRs because most NFL defenses will be able to lock down on Davis and Gore if those are the only two guys you're throwing to. Morgan had a good game last night, but Crabtree only had one reception (albeit for 32 yards).

    As for the defense, I love the front 7. The corners aren't bad but there are some problems at safety. I wouldn't have minded seeing the Niners use one of their first round picks on a CB in this last draft and then they could have moved Clements to FS. I don't think I've seen Taylor Mays on the field yet. Great athlete but probably a marginal NFL player.
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    Hmm. Did anybody watch the game to see what went wring today? Or maybe better put, did anybody watch to see if anything went right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sizzle View Post
    Hmm. Did anybody watch the game to see what went wring today? Or maybe better put, did anybody watch to see if anything went right?
    Matt Cassel had 3 TD passes, his best performance of the year...sounds like that team is now struggling on both sides of the ball.

    Smith had an INT early and a TD late (like 5 seconds to go late).
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrumNFeather View Post
    Matt Cassel had 3 TD passes, his best performance of the year...sounds like that team is now struggling on both sides of the ball.

    Smith had an INT early and a TD late (like 5 seconds to go late).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sizzle View Post
    Hmm. Did anybody watch the game to see what went wring today? Or maybe better put, did anybody watch to see if anything went right?
    On the wrong...

    Offensive coordinators are wise to the defensive players/schemes that were so effective against the run the last few seasons. Instead of running against the 49ers, teams attack them with elaborate screens on the edges. And it's killing them. 10-15 yards at a time. Willis can't do everything, so once a back gets on the edge, the 49ers are getting gashed (see Monday night too).

    They have to adjust their schemes to protect against this obvious hole. The problem is they're slow out there, so maybe there is no fix.

    Now on to the biggest problem...Jimmy Raye thinks is 1978. He's under the allusion you can simply impose your will on another team by pounding it over, and over, and over again with inside runs. It's a joke. This is QB league, a match up league, an scheme league, and he is totally predicable.

    With the Niners down 21 in the 3rd, he called three straight runs up the middle. What? Trying to establish the run down three TDs, on the road? On pass plays, KC's corners were jumping all the routes because everyone knew what was coming (see the INT on the slant to Crab).

    "I've seen that route on film a lot," Flowers said. "Crabtree likes to run to the flat and then angle it back in for a slant. I just played what I'd seen on film."
    The 49ers have more talent than the Chiefs. Lots more talent. Yet they were totally embarrassed out there today. Completely out coached and schemed.

    Raye should be fired on Monday.

    edit: here is a link on the quote: http://www.csnbayarea.com/09/26/10/i...46&feedID=2539
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    I've been a big Singletary supporter and I'm a fan of continuity. But he's had enough time that if SF keeps up this level of play through the year I think he starting to get on the hot seat.

    If he goes, I think they have to look at ambit name guy like Cowher or Gruden. Like you said, the talent is there. Just not getting it done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sizzle View Post
    I've been a big Singletary supporter and I'm a fan of continuity. But he's had enough time that if SF keeps up this level of play through the year I think he starting to get on the hot seat.

    If he goes, I think they have to look at ambit name guy like Cowher or Gruden. Like you said, the talent is there. Just not getting it done.
    If they don't win the NFC West this season, I think he'll be fired. Based on everyone winning today but 49ers, that appears to be a pipedream.

    I'd look at Jim Harbaugh being the next Niners coach, if Sing doesn't make it. It doesn't look good for AS at this point either. He'll probably be a backup in SD next season. Way too many check downs from Smith; he's too worried about making a mistake. He'd be better just going balls out and stop being so mechanical.

    On other note: Anthony Davis should not be starting. I know he is their first pick from the draft, but he was getting destroyed out there today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sizzle View Post
    I've been a big Singletary supporter and I'm a fan of continuity. But he's had enough time that if SF keeps up this level of play through the year I think he starting to get on the hot seat.

    If he goes, I think they have to look at ambit name guy like Cowher or Gruden. Like you said, the talent is there. Just not getting it done.
    Gruden would be interesting because he was gushing about Alex Smith on MNF, so if he came in, would they extend Alex Smith? It'd be his 6th year by then and (potentially) no playoff appearances.
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